R&C Art, the Women of R&C

[Piratecat]

Which girls? I mean, since it is a fact, there should be a list somewhere, or at least a definitive description of type, right? I mean, god knows nothing is more offensive the "the girls" than depictions of powerful and attractive women.

Most powerful and attractive women I know are offended by being referred to as 'girls.'

Moon-Lancer, I may not be making my point clear enough. I know lots of female gamers, and I have no doubt that some of them dislike sexualization of women in D&D art, and some of them don't give a damn. My point is that even though I can name 50+ women gamers, "gamers that Piratecat knows" is not a big enough sample size to base a decision on. Who cares what my friends think? It's a tiny sub-set of the market, without any statistical significance. You really don't want to make big decisions on hearsay.

 

[Piratecat]

Link?

The letters columns following the initial issue. I'm way, waaay too lazy to go hunt for it right now. I may be able to dig up the art or issue number from a different thread here, though. I'll look.

 

[Moon-Lancer]

Ask any mature and serious girl/woman her opinion on such fantasy cheese art.

what age group are we talking here? my experience has been in the 20-35

and again "do you know any woman that play d&d and dislike boob armor?"

any at all?

most geek girls I know are pretty easy going about this kind of thing. so I am pretty shocked that boob armor has such a negative standing. But so far its been mostly men (on this forum at least) that have taken a stand against it. are their any woman here that dislike like boob armor in rpg art. are thier any that do?

 

[Moon-Lancer]

The letters columns following the initial issue. I'm way, waaay too lazy to go hunt for it right now. I may be able to dig up the art or issue number from a different thread here, though. I'll look.

thanks

 

[The Ubbergeek]

D&D is a FANTASY game, as far I know. So, there.

Don't wonder why girls don't play the game as much as expected (and other reasons are there too).

 

[kennew142]

what age group are we talking here? my experience has been in the 20-35

and again "do you know any woman that play d&d and dislike boob armor?"

any at all?

most geek girls I know are pretty easy going about this kind of thing. so I am pretty shocked that boob armor has such a negative standing. But so far its been mostly men (on this forum at least) that have taken a stand against it. are their any woman here that dislike like boob armor in rpg art. are thier any that do?

I'm not a woman, but I know many female gamers who dislike boob armor. As Piratecat said, my personal experience isn't a large enough sample to base an argument on. My experience is with female gamers between the ages of 19 and 45.

 

[adembroski]

Moon-Lancer has a great point in all this... to put another spin on it, why must we always cater to "The Offended", who generally is a very small group of people compared to the whole. Women admire one another in a way that men cannot quite understand, because it's entirely platonic. A man does not look at a scantily clad man and say "Damn, that's a handsome man", as we do not recognize male beauty. Women, however, recognize feminine beauty and can appreciate each other's beauty.

Take some time to click around deviant art sometime and note the number of chainmail bikini pictures made by women.

 

[kennew142]

I would like to say that I am in no way offended by boob-armor. I just think it's ridiculous.

 

[Wolfspider]

to put another spin on it, why must we always cater to "The Offended", who generally is a very small group of people compared to the whole.

Heh.

 

[The Ubbergeek]

No - women and girls look at boob armor shots, and it clearly send then a message 'girls, in this game, the MEN do the work and you are just there to look sexy'.