D&D (2024) Rogue's Been in an Awkward Place, And This Survey Might Be Our Last Chance to Let WotC Know.

[ECMO3]

"intimidation with charisma doesn't really intimidate me at all, it's just a load of hot air and posturing.

Exactly, this is what intimidation is.

 

[ECMO3]

Torture doesn't work. Except in US TV shows.

Torture is very effective at getting answers .... just not necessarily truthful answers.

 

[Gorck]

I love how, in the thread about Rogues, we're arguing about Intimidation (STR) checks. But in the thread about Barbarians, Druids, and Monks, we're arguing about Rogues picking locks.

 

[Maxperson]

Heh. A Strength (Intimidation) check is just... rolling initiative.

When you fail it usually is!

 

[Maxperson]

as it should be, throwing someone against the wall is no intimidating someone of what can you do to them, but displaying what you can do to them. It's a direct attack.

That depends. If you are grabbing a warrior or someone who can and will defend himself against armed adventurers, yes we're going to initiative. If on the other hand you're grabbing some pipsqueak courier of the king's to intimidate him into telling you were he is going, just roll the intimidation check as you toss him against the wall. He's not going to try and fight one PC, let alone a group.

 

[mellored]

Anyone get actual play with the new rogue?

Curious how cunning strike is working.

 

[tetrasodium]

Anyone get actual play with the new rogue?

Curious how cunning strike is working.

We've known how cunning strike would work in a campaign since 3.x when there was a way to get similar at will abilities for a similarly small and insignificant drop in damage output. annoyingly for everyone else at the table

 

[fluffybunbunkittens]

Anyone get actual play with the new rogue?

Curious how cunning strike is working.

Does it count if the Rogue player saw what everyone else got and just switched their class levels to Fighter with a Rogue dip?

 

[Maxperson]

The D&D 5e Strength ability handles two conflictive concepts: agility and weightlifting.

I've proven that to be objectively wrong. 5e RAW states that dex = agility. You can argue that in the real world strength = agility(it doesn't), but you can't argue that in 5e that's the way the strength ability works. It objectively does not work that way.

 

[Yaarel]

I've proven that to be objectively wrong. 5e RAW states that dex = agility. You can argue that in the real world strength = agility(it doesn't), but you can't argue that in 5e that's the way the strength ability works. It objectively does not work that way.

Flavor is one thing. Mechanics is an other.

In order to actualize agility − feats of jumping, climbing, running, etcetera − one must mechanically use Strength only.