Star Wars: Andor
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Randomthoughts
Adventurer
Can you elaborate? Is there some tracker on viewership?
It’s all over the web — here’s one article but there are plenty of others to look at:
ANDOR Viewership Well Below STAR WARS TV Shows Like THE MANDALORIAN And OBI-WAN KENOBI
Andor may have received high praise from critics, but some viewership data suggests the Disney+ series is drawing a considerably lower number of Star Wars fans on a weekly basis. Read on for details...
DeviousQuail
Hero
Well that is unfortunate. The silver lining is that season 2 was already greenlit and they only planned to do 2 seasons. Us fans should be happy knowing we'll get a full story out of this.It’s all over the web — here’s one article but there are plenty of others to look at:
ANDOR Viewership Well Below STAR WARS TV Shows Like THE MANDALORIAN And OBI-WAN KENOBI
Andor may have received high praise from critics, but some viewership data suggests the Disney+ series is drawing a considerably lower number of Star Wars fans on a weekly basis. Read on for details...comicbookmovie.com
Randomthoughts
Adventurer
I’m also hoping that word of mouth will garner the show more attention over time. It really is a good show and hope others will eventually see it for themselves.
Celebrim
Legend
Episode VII is just great TV. We've gotten far enough along in the story that introductions are over and we are forward with everyone's story line. And wow, this is just doing everything right. The Galaxy feels big and we aren't just revisiting the same little town on Tatooine. The political tension is tense, and we see it playing out from the halls of power all the way down to the locals on the receiving end. We don't feel like a glorified cartoon that is just yucking it up and feeding an audience it doesn't respect memberberries. It's whip smart. It's got great characters. It's telling a story. It's everything Disney Star Wars just generally isn't.
Paul Farquhar
Legend
I think it's to do with the way people watch streamed shows. What I do (and I don't think I'm atypical) is watch the first episode, then decide if I want to see the rest. And Andor very nearly lost me with a boring first episode. The show didn't get interesting until episode 3. If they had stitched the first 3 episodes into a "feature length pilot" I think they would have kept a bigger audience. And done something about the confusing and incoherent flashback sequences. They could have been cut completely once it was clear they didn't work, and delivered the critical information via dialogue.It’s all over the web — here’s one article but there are plenty of others to look at:
ANDOR Viewership Well Below STAR WARS TV Shows Like THE MANDALORIAN And OBI-WAN KENOBI
Andor may have received high praise from critics, but some viewership data suggests the Disney+ series is drawing a considerably lower number of Star Wars fans on a weekly basis. Read on for details...
Agreed
Mustrum_Ridcully
Hero
I guess I understand why you would write this.
And that sound of prison doors closing over a view on the Imperial Standards cubicles...
Celebrim
Legend
Everyone is ultimately going to be carrying their prison with them, even the jailers.
I like Syril and I hope to see him turn his life around, but as a writer the other direction you could take his character is entirely as the tree the ax of Cassian has forgotten.
John R Davis
Hero
I'm clearly odd because I think it is dire and dreary slow, with not a single rebel character to care about.
Aside from some interesting insights into the working of the Empire I can find nothing positive to say.
Aside from some interesting insights into the working of the Empire I can find nothing positive to say.
pukunui
Legend
Finally caught up yesterday.
Luthen’s assistant, Kleya, is more involved than it first seemed. She’s ruthless. I wonder if she’s connected to Saw Gerrera. We haven’t seen him yet.
It was good to see that Cinta is still alive and free, but will she and Vel be able to reunite? Speaking of Vel, I didn’t recognize her at first all glammed up like that.
Even though Syril is clearly bored out of his mind, I’m really liking the middle class humdrum of his current circumstances. Star Wars tends to show only those in extreme wealth or extreme poverty (or those who live apart from it, such as soldiers and Jedi) so getting a glimpse into the lives of the middle class is a nice treat. And his mother is killing it.
Should we believe Maarva about Andor’s sister?
I love the attention to detail on this show – e.g. in the flashbacks showing Clem’s death, the troopers are still in Clone Wars armor. They’re undoubtedly still clones underneath as well. Poor Clem.
Obviously Cassian isn’t going to spend the next six years in jail. Will Vel break him out instead of killing him?
It was fun to see the KX droids as a bit of foreshadowing, even if K2 isn’t going to appear this season.
Luthen’s assistant, Kleya, is more involved than it first seemed. She’s ruthless. I wonder if she’s connected to Saw Gerrera. We haven’t seen him yet.
It was good to see that Cinta is still alive and free, but will she and Vel be able to reunite? Speaking of Vel, I didn’t recognize her at first all glammed up like that.
Even though Syril is clearly bored out of his mind, I’m really liking the middle class humdrum of his current circumstances. Star Wars tends to show only those in extreme wealth or extreme poverty (or those who live apart from it, such as soldiers and Jedi) so getting a glimpse into the lives of the middle class is a nice treat. And his mother is killing it.
Should we believe Maarva about Andor’s sister?
I love the attention to detail on this show – e.g. in the flashbacks showing Clem’s death, the troopers are still in Clone Wars armor. They’re undoubtedly still clones underneath as well. Poor Clem.
Obviously Cassian isn’t going to spend the next six years in jail. Will Vel break him out instead of killing him?
It was fun to see the KX droids as a bit of foreshadowing, even if K2 isn’t going to appear this season.
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trappedslider
Legend
I got jewish mother vibes from her:
Q: How many Jewish mothers does it take the change a light bulb?
A: (Sigh) Don’t bother, I’ll sit in the dark, I don’t want to be a nuisance to anybody . . .
Davies
Legend
I don't see Thrawn getting played as badly as I think Kleya is playing Luthen, somehow.
Paul Farquhar
Legend
The intersection between people who like serious political drama and people who like Star Wars.
The trouble is, in order to understand the political situation, you have to have seen the juvenile pulp fantasy action movies [as perceived by some]. Andor cannot serve as a point of entry into the franchise.
Which highlights the limitation of a shared universe to support different sorts of shows. Also see: She Hulk.
Given that Luthen is almost certainly toast by the end of the series, I don't think so.
MarkB
Legend
Well, Thrawn was also out of the picture by the time of the original trilogy, so that's not necessarily a disqualifier (hurry up Ahsoka series, need to see how that turns out!)
I feel like Luthen is more in the Saw Gerrera camp in terms of where to take the rebellion, so if he survives at all, I could see him eventually being pushed out by the mainstream Alliance.
Paul Farquhar
Legend
Thrawn had a contingency plan to avoid becoming dead. And a contingency plan for the contingency plan. And will no doubt have found a way to turn his abduction by space whales to his advantage*, and was manipulating events all the way through the original trilogy...
*He had reason to believe Palpatine was about to kill him, his disappearance at Lothal almost certainly was to his advantage.
Luthen is planning on dying.
Luthen intends his death to motivate Mon Mothma to fully commit.
It's established in Rebels that about a year after this she goes on the run.
pukunui
Legend
What makes you think Kleya is playing Luthen? I don't see it.
MarkB
Legend
That makes assumptions about both characters that aren't in evidence on screen.
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