D&D 5E Vecna Adventure Next Year and Obilesks *SPOILERS*

Parmandur

Book-Friend
Sure, and there are simple D&D adventures too (though "more powerful for it" is an opinion that's highly debatable; I found them less powerful for it). But it's not "rude" to have the ones that aren't simple rely (or even heavily rely) on what's come before. That way, there's something for everyone.
There is a fundamental difference between a movie/TV franchise and an RPG product line. The films need advancement for anything to happen, whereas an advancing plot in RPG products ultimately leads to confusion and problems.
 

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Alzrius

The EN World kitten
There is a fundamental difference between a movie/TV franchise and an RPG product line. The films need advancement for anything to happen, whereas an advancing plot in RPG products ultimately leads to confusion and problems.
The latter half of your second sentence is an opinion stated as though it were a fact; it's not.

Having established that, the "fundamental difference" is one of personal taste rather than anything inherent to format. Plenty of people like, and even prefer, a metaplot in their TTRPG games, just like they do in Star Wars, Star Trek, the MCU, etc. Heck, if WotC is using Die Vecna Die! as the basis for this next adventure, they seem to like some of it as well (especially with how the obelisk thing has been showing up in adventures for years now; that's shades of a metaplot right there).
 

Parmandur

Book-Friend
The latter half of your second sentence is an opinion stated as though it were a fact; it's not.

Having established that, the "fundamental difference" is one of personal taste rather than anything inherent to format. Plenty of people like, and even prefer, a metaplot in their TTRPG games. Heck, if WotC is using Die Vecna Die! as the basis for this next adventure, they seem to like some of it as well (especially with how the obelisk thing has been showing up in adventures for years now; that's shades of a metaplot right there).
Name one RPG product line metaplot that didn't go off the rails.

Adventure Campaigns have plots, notably not one of the 5E campaigns has an official resolution or result: that is, no metaplot. They aren't about to start thay up again, but they might put the final nail in the coffin.
 

Alzrius

The EN World kitten
Name one RPG product line metaplot that didn't go off the rails.
"Off the rails" is a weasel word (or rather, weasel phrase) in that it doesn't actually define what you're talking about. It just vaguely alludes to the idea of "metaplot has always been bad" without establishing how or why that is.
Adventure Campaigns have plots, notably not one of the 5E campaigns has an official resolution or result: that is, no metaplot. They aren't about to start thay up again, but they might put the final nail in the coffin.
Given that they've apparently been seeding the obelisk thing in adventures for years on end, are referring to the events of previous adventures (e.g. Rime of the Frostmaiden), and are potentially about to reference a major event from AD&D 2nd Edition, it looks more like they're about to tear the coffin lid off.
 

bedir than

Full Moon Storyteller
Sure, and there are simple D&D adventures too (though "more powerful for it" is an opinion that's highly debatable; I found them less powerful for it). But it's not "rude" to have the ones that aren't simple rely (or even heavily rely) on what's come before. That way, there's something for everyone.
Do you expect Ahsoka to be nominated for an Emmy?
 

Parmandur

Book-Friend
"Off the rails" is a weasel word (or rather, weasel phrase) in that it doesn't actually define what you're talking about. It just vaguely alludes to the idea of "metaplot has always been bad" without establishing how or why that is.

Given that they've apparently been seeding the obelisk thing in adventures for years on end, are referring to the events of previous adventures (e.g. Rime of the Frostmaiden), and are potentially about to reference a major event from AD&D 2nd Edition, it looks more like they're about to tear the coffin lid off.
They indicate how you can use all those Adventures in the future after this one in the text: they are all modular, without a definite canon tomelone or cause and effect.
 

Alzrius

The EN World kitten
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Alzrius

The EN World kitten
They indicate how you can use all those Adventures in the future after this one in the text: they are all modular, without a definite canon tomelone or cause and effect.
So a different way of introducing elements of a metaplot, then. Good.
 

Divine2021

Adventurer
Neither the Mandolorian nor Andie required that.

They were simple tales and more powerful because of it
This is simply not true. Both shows required deep lore knowledge to fully appreciate—seven movies, in the case of Andor, six movies and a ton of other crap for the Mandolorian. Disney was able to pull it off because they operated on several different levels in their story telling all at once—they showed that in modern entertainment you can speak to many different audiences at once. I don’t have much faith in wotc, but they could pull it off. It pays to treat your fans as sometimes smarter than they actually are.
 


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