D&D General Vote Up A 5e-alike, Part 3: Stats and ASIs

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

Stacking to a potential +2 is how I had it.

That's how I had it designed, too.

Thanks for the shout out.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Q1: standard 6 is fine, but I have a lot to say about them when we get to skills.

Q2: I would be fine with no ASIs at all, but failing that, Level Up's split works for me.

 

[Shiroiken]

Standard Ability scores are obviously the top choice.

ASI should be +1 from race/ancestry/species, +1 from class, and +1 floating. Max +2 to any single ability.

 

[TwoSix]

So I'd try to divorce combat from ability scores.

Divorcing combat from ability scores would immediately fix like 40% of 5e's overall problems. It's the number one easy change anyone can make to do a better version of 5e.

 

[Corinnguard]

1. standard 6. i'm not sure you can even argue it's dnd without them.
2. ancestry, background, culture, and class. let's get the whole spectrum going. we ball.

Pathfinder 2nd edition has it where all of your ability scores start out at 10, and then you use ASIs from your Ancestry, your Background and your Class to make them better.

 

[W'rkncacnter]

Pathfinder 2nd edition has it where all of your ability scores start out at 10, and then you use ASIs from your Ancestry, your Background and your Class to make them better.

oh, i know. that's where i stole the idea from

 

[Corinnguard]

oh, i know. that's where i stole the idea from

So you picked Paizo's pockets then? They must have been at Disadvantage on their Insight checks.

 

[Minigiant]

The Standard 6 is fine.

The problem with the Standard 6 wasn't with the Standard 6 itself. It was due to the lack of balance due to the designers' biases and inconsistencies.

The next 3.1 poll should be voting up what each Ability score affects.
Like Should DEX affect AC, Initiative, Reflex saves, Ranged weapons, Finesse Weapons AND 4-6 Skills?
Could STR grant HP or be you Shield bonus to AC?
Could INT affect AC in Light Armor like 4e or bonus skills like 3e?

 

[Dausuul]

Question 1: There are no ability scores. You have a single proficiency bonus, which you either have or don't on any given roll -- no other modifiers. If your proficiency bonus is +6, and you are proficient in Stealth, then your Stealth check is 1d20+6. If you aren't proficient, it's a straight 1d20.

Question 2: Moot.

 

[Bill Zebub]

Question 1: Standard 6 is a sacred cow even I wouldn't kill in something that's D&D-like.

Question 2: No ASIs! Just bake the difference into the point buy/array/dice rolling method.

Yeah, that's my vote, too.

(Well, my actual vote is Shadowdark, of course, but that didn't seem in the spirit of the poll.)