D&D (2024) Which subclasses “should” have been in 2024

[Horwath]

Any "martial" system that compares with spellcasting on a 1:1 ratio is effectively going to end up looking like magic anyway. If the concern is that a punch bard is going to beat a punch monk due to magic, then give the monk enough magic to counter play that.

this.

you could put ALL 4E powers in one pool and let anyone pick anything, respecting level requirements OFC and it would not break anything.

 

[Seramus]

Just going to point out the complete lack of a plant druid.

I still want a druid that is "Return the world to its elemental origins."
All those plants and animals can bugger off my primal rock.

 

[Not a Decepticon]

Any "martial" system that compares with spellcasting on a 1:1 ratio is effectively going to end up looking like magic anyway. If the concern is that a punch bard is going to beat a punch monk due to magic, then give the monk enough magic to counter play that.

Then it means Monk fails to fufill it's role as a power fantasy of being martial arts class and proves WotC cannot design for non-magical classes, despite such characters being prevalent in fantasy genre the game is supposed to emulate.

 

[CreamCloud0]

this.

you could put ALL 4E powers in one pool and let anyone pick anything, respecting level requirements OFC and it would not break anything.

honestly, martial powers are fine to work off a 'magic system' if you're(nonspecific you) going to insist on calling AEDU 'magic', but the important thing is that the martial magic system doesn't feel like the same kind of magic system as your actual magic system.

 

[Belen]

I would have put the psionic subs in a separate book. Swashbuckler, shadow sorcerer and rune knight form feel more iconic. Likewise, necromancer over abjurer.

This but also add the Blade Bard.

 

[Belen]

this.

you could put ALL 4E powers in one pool and let anyone pick anything, respecting level requirements OFC and it would not break anything.

Ok, but you'd have to play 4e. That would save me a lot of money though.