Lyxen
Great Old One
I picked Planescape and Spelljammer with the idea that WotC will take what they did in 4e and make that canon for 5e, merging the two.
Heresy !
I picked Planescape and Spelljammer with the idea that WotC will take what they did in 4e and make that canon for 5e, merging the two.
Based on some WotC polling a few years back. Tier 1 was FR, Wberron, Ravenloft, Planescape, and Dark Sun. Tier 2 was Dragonlamce and Hreyhawk. Tier 3 they didn't bother to enumerate, but it was everything else.Just out of curiosity, how do you allocate a setting to a tier ?
No, that poll was well after the game was out, about 6 years ago. Forgotten Realma is probably still the most popular Setting, and in terms of judging what will excite the older crowd the results are probably still valid overall.Nope. It’s a popularity rating derived from a blog post made during the Next play text about the result of polling the playtest crowd about their most-used settings…8 years ago.
Wizards is probably going to surprise us in the next couple years.
Dragonlance. They are giving Weis and the Hickmans a lot of money to revamp the setting to not further support it.
Spelljammer. It's far more light hearted than Planescape and Wizards shies away from heavy content, Sigil's factions are a little deep for typical 5E fare.
Probably more Forgotten Realms. It's borged the characters and creatures from other settings as needed. Who needs Greyhawk when you can just relocate what you need to Faerun?
As much as I love Mystara, the best setting as confirmed by science, it's too problematic for 5e. WOTC shies away from real world analogies, especially non European ones. That's 1/3 of the Mystara nations from the start. The lack of several races for story reasons and class restrictions also goes against the design of 5E. Still, it would could be used as a retro style setting to appeal to the OSR crowd. The Mystara Player's Guide has like 13,000 downloads to its not unlikely WOTC hasn't seen it. The free part really helps that number though.
Fair enough on the time, but I stand by the rest. 6 years is still quite long ago, and the game has brought in a huge number of new people since then. The demographics have shifted quite a lot since then.No, that poll was well after the game was out, about 6 years ago. Forgotten Realma is probably still the most popular Setting, and in terms of judging what will excite the older crowd the results are probably still valid overall.
I have heard people make similar assertions before, but I'm not entirely sure why we should assume that all nations would or even should have to be covered for a Mystara setting anymore than needing Kara-Tur, Maztica, Zakhara, and such for a Forgotten Realms book.As much as I love Mystara, the best setting as confirmed by science, it's too problematic for 5e. WOTC shies away from real world analogies, especially non European ones. That's 1/3 of the Mystara nations from the start. The lack of several races for story reasons and class restrictions also goes against the design of 5E. Still, it would could be used as a retro style setting to appeal to the OSR crowd. The Mystara Player's Guide has like 13,000 downloads to its not unlikely WOTC hasn't seen it. The free part really helps that number though.
If I remember right, one of the surveys, about a year or so ago if I remember correctly, had questions on settings. I would assume they would go off of those results. Unfortunately, unlike the previous one, we're not privy to the results...Fair enough on the time, but I stand by the rest. 6 years is still quite long ago, and the game has brought in a huge number of new people since then. The demographics have shifted quite a lot since then.
Many players are young enough these days that they were little kids or preteens 6 years ago.
Wizards is considering the desires of a host of players that weren’t even playing when that survey was taken, and they seem to want to surprise the player base.
Your logic is sound, but I agree with @Urriak Uruk that Dragonlance is a strong spoiler contender.
If I remember right, one of the surveys, about a year or so ago if I remember correctly, had questions on settings. I would assume they would go off of those results. Unfortunately, unlike the previous one, we're not privy to the results...
There was a gazetteer planned, but then 4e’s financial performance was what it was and Essentials failed to turn it around.I still find it incredible that we never really got a serious one, it really was a brilliant setting to start a campaign.
There was a gazetteer planned, but then 4e’s financial performance was what it was and Essentials failed to turn it around.
"They" aren't putting out DL.I think Dark Sun and a bona fide Forgotten Realms core book are both fairly certain. I'd pick Spelljammer for the third, since there have been so many hints, but I'm still not convinced that hinting at Spelljammer isn't just a running joke for 5e.
Now, what I want to see is Dragonlance. And there is something to the idea that they're not just going to put out new Dragonlance fiction and not support it with a game product.
Mystara's main draw for a lot of people is the diversity of its cultures. Karameikos is Byzantium occupied Serbia. Classic setting but keeping up the adventures there might prove tricky in the long run.I have heard people make similar assertions before, but I'm not entirely sure why we should assume that all nations would or even should have to be covered for a Mystara setting anymore than needing Kara-Tur, Maztica, Zakhara, and such for a Forgotten Realms book.
SCAG didn't cover every nation of Forgotten Realms. Eberron: Rising from the Last War didn't cover every nation of Eberron with lavish detail. It glosses over Xen'drik and Sarlona.
Would it really be an issue if, for example, WotC only or primarily covered the area around Karameikos?
They don't do all of FR, just the traditional Faerun like they have in literally every other edition in 5e since FR was first released, except 5e where only the Swordcoast mattered.
And it's most likely the revisit that Ray mentioned so that means a classic setting that already got some kind of campaign setting book, but which was unsatisfactory enough to demand a new one.
Yeah certainly, but I think it's a mistake to think that they're going to just publish things in order of established popularity.If I remember right, one of the surveys, about a year or so ago if I remember correctly, had questions on settings. I would assume they would go off of those results. Unfortunately, unlike the previous one, we're not privy to the results...