Marandahir
Crown-Forester (he/him)
Dark Sun and Planescape will get full setting guides, while Dragonlance will appear in the year’s likely adventure anthology, methinks.
D&D 5E Which three classic settings do you think WotC will publish in 2022-23? (Fixed)
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Levistus's_Leviathan
5e Freelancer
Here's something that I don't think has been said yet: The "cameo" setting could be like how Greyhawk cameo'd in Ghost of Saltmarsh, just being the place that the adventures start in a future anthology book. So that could be a cameo of Sigil or the Rock of Bral as the starting place for a book of extra-planar/worldly adventures.
Any thoughts?
Any thoughts?
Scribe
Legend
There's zero chance Wizards would touch those topics as of this year.
Benjamin Olson
Hero
From a business standpoint I think the logical move is to go hard into Forgotten Realms with products for the next couple years. While I don't think selling more FR to people already playing the game will much help out sales of Baldur's Gate 3, FR Magic Cards, or tickets to see the major motion picture set there, all this Toril-based crossover media is, assuming reasonable success, going to drive more people into trying the game and, at least initially, expecting and wanting it to be the specic IP they were brought into, not another setting they don't know anything about with the same rule set. I know it's not what the average hardcore player is excited about, but WotC has already got their hooks in the average hardcore player, and the game's sales are riding high. Better to leave people pining for once popular settings until they need to actually cash in on that nostalgia and pent up demand to correct a sales slump.
At the extreme end of this I think given how disruptive adding a proper psionics system would be to the game, and how the Dark Sun setting (whether or not you think it really needs a full-fledged psionics system) was clearly designed to feature and boost interest in psionics, that the logical thing to do business-wise is save both for near the end of the system's lifespan when they need to shake things up and rely on the prestige of a long requested IP to gin up sales. So my prediction is that Dark Sun will make it to 5e, but only when they deem the system to be in its final waning years. I won't be surprised if it's the last thing they push before they start teasing 6e. And given the post-apocalyptic nature of the setting its a fitting note to end on.
At the extreme end of this I think given how disruptive adding a proper psionics system would be to the game, and how the Dark Sun setting (whether or not you think it really needs a full-fledged psionics system) was clearly designed to feature and boost interest in psionics, that the logical thing to do business-wise is save both for near the end of the system's lifespan when they need to shake things up and rely on the prestige of a long requested IP to gin up sales. So my prediction is that Dark Sun will make it to 5e, but only when they deem the system to be in its final waning years. I won't be surprised if it's the last thing they push before they start teasing 6e. And given the post-apocalyptic nature of the setting its a fitting note to end on.
Henadic Theologian
Hero
I think the cover with Boo and what looks like Planets and stuff tells us what the Camoe is going to be, Spelljammer in a Forgotten Realms adventure. It could be an anthology, but more likely it's a major adventure involving spelljammer, Lantan, and perhaps other FR locations.
Interesting side note the one video game Spelljammer got, Pirates of Realnspace was also a Forgotten Realms crossover (Realmspace being the space within the Forgotten Realms crystal sphere).
Henadic Theologian
Hero
Maybe with cultural consultants. But it's a Tier 3 setting, so no time soon anyways.
Levistus's_Leviathan
5e Freelancer
Yeah. This site already had the whole "you think Orcs are Black People" flamewar. Mystara basically says that certain D&D races are different groups of people from the real world by having their lands in the world being obviously based off of real world peoples. That's potentially even more problematic than the Vistani. I can't see WotC touching it with a 10-foot pole given the current direction of the game.
Henadic Theologian
Hero
This forum is not reflective of most players, WotC has straight up said the Forgotten Realms is their most popular setting, hence why it gets the MtG sets and movies and video games, they tried an Eberron MMO and they had to make portal to the Forgotten Realms to turn a profit.
Henadic Theologian
Hero
Plus it's a Tier 3 setting, suggesting a Tier 2 setting is iffy as is, but a Tier 3 setting is silly no matter what it's place on current politics. It's all about the Tiers folks, it's about the Tiers. Tier 3 settings are worth consideration.
Scribe
Legend
With themes of conquest and colonization? Zero chance, come on. lol
Henadic Theologian
Hero
It doesn't matter because it's Tier 3, no way a Tier 3 setting gets a setting book, they will do MtG and settings first, best Tier 3 setting get are camoes IF they are super fit a particular book, like Council of Wyrms in Fizbans. Poor Tier 3 setting get crumbs, it's unfair, but that is how it is, WotC is a business.
Scribe
Legend
Dude you can push your Tier theory to the moon and back, it wouldnt matter if that was what FR was based on, it would NEVER be mentioned again in a Wizards Product published in the year 2021 or beyond.
You will never see 'Here's a setting based on colonization, ransacking, and conquering other people!' literally ever again, come out of Wizards, and any setting it is or was a part of, will be retconned (there is no canon remember) to the Nine Hells and back, if it ever did see print.
Urriak Uruk
Gaming is fun, and fun is for everyone
They're referencing this; D&D Monthly Survey | Dungeons & Dragons
The popularity of settings in the survey fell into three distinct clusters. Not surprisingly, our most popular settings from prior editions landed at the top of the rankings, with Eberron, Ravenloft, Dark Sun, Planescape, and the Forgotten Realms all proving equally popular. Greyhawk, Dragonlance, and Spelljammer all shared a similar level of second-tier popularity, followed by a fairly steep drop-off to the rest of the settings. My sense is that Spelljammer has often lagged behind the broad popularity of other settings, falling into love-it-or-hate-it status depending on personal tastes. Greyhawk and Dragonlance hew fairly close to the assumptions we used in creating the fifth edition rulebooks, making them much easier to run with material from past editions. Of the top five settings, four require significant new material to function and the fifth is by far our most popular world.
J.Quondam
CR 1/8
Thanks!
I just want official Thri-Kreen player race stats, as I eternally huff the copium.
But yeah I suspect Dragonlance may make a showing, if only due to the novel. That's all I really can comment on.
Doesn't the movie take place in FR? If so, there is zero percent chance they don't release items related to that that year (when does it come out?). Seriously, no one is that bad at cross marketing (other than Disney not having baby yoda dolls ready). No one. 100% they do FR stuff the year the movie comes out.
Other than that? I want planejammer. And I kind of want something like what Monte Cook Games did with their 9th world, like Barrier Peaks in DnD......maybe Gamma World? I don't know, something different than normal fantasy. We have plenty of normal fantasy.
Other than that? I want planejammer. And I kind of want something like what Monte Cook Games did with their 9th world, like Barrier Peaks in DnD......maybe Gamma World? I don't know, something different than normal fantasy. We have plenty of normal fantasy.
Demetrios1453
Hero
You do realize that one of the Domains in the recent Ravenloft setting book was explicitly, as stated in the text itself, based off colonization, ransacking, and conquering other people? And in fact, the one who resisted that invading enemy was the one who became the Lord of the Domain?
Scribe
Legend
Was it the players doing so, or like most of the Domains I skimmed through its quite clear that the Domains and those running them, are capital E, "Evil" and you as the player are meant to disrupt and/or stop those activities?
That is not the impression I get out of the setting that spawned this discussion.
