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D&D 5E Which three classic settings do you think WotC will publish in 2022-23? (Fixed)

Pick three and only three

  • Planescape

    Votes: 106 71.6%
  • Spelljammer

    Votes: 53 35.8%
  • Dark Sun

    Votes: 90 60.8%
  • Forgotten Realms (Faerun)

    Votes: 33 22.3%
  • Beyond Faerun (Al-Qadim, Kara-Tur, Maztica, etc)

    Votes: 8 5.4%
  • Dragonlance

    Votes: 78 52.7%
  • Greyhawk

    Votes: 32 21.6%
  • Mystara

    Votes: 10 6.8%
  • Birthright

    Votes: 2 1.4%
  • Nentir Vale

    Votes: 11 7.4%
  • Council of Wyrms

    Votes: 3 2.0%
  • Ghostlight

    Votes: 1 0.7%
  • Blackmoor

    Votes: 2 1.4%
  • Pelinore

    Votes: 1 0.7%
  • Jakandor

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Dragon Fist

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Rokugan

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other non-D&D setting (e.g. Gamma World, etc)

    Votes: 4 2.7%
  • Don't Care/Whatever

    Votes: 3 2.0%

  • Total voters
    148

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AcererakTriple6

Autistic DM (he/him)
Here's something that I don't think has been said yet: The "cameo" setting could be like how Greyhawk cameo'd in Ghost of Saltmarsh, just being the place that the adventures start in a future anthology book. So that could be a cameo of Sigil or the Rock of Bral as the starting place for a book of extra-planar/worldly adventures.

Any thoughts?
 

Scribe

Hero
Mystara's main draw for a lot of people is the diversity of its cultures. Karameikos is Byzantium occupied Serbia. Classic setting but keeping up the adventures there might prove tricky in the long run.

Mystara is the exploration heavy setting, it kept adding new areas for players to settle, conquer and colonize. Cutting down the number of available nations hurts the overall theme.
There's zero chance Wizards would touch those topics as of this year.
 

From a business standpoint I think the logical move is to go hard into Forgotten Realms with products for the next couple years. While I don't think selling more FR to people already playing the game will much help out sales of Baldur's Gate 3, FR Magic Cards, or tickets to see the major motion picture set there, all this Toril-based crossover media is, assuming reasonable success, going to drive more people into trying the game and, at least initially, expecting and wanting it to be the specic IP they were brought into, not another setting they don't know anything about with the same rule set. I know it's not what the average hardcore player is excited about, but WotC has already got their hooks in the average hardcore player, and the game's sales are riding high. Better to leave people pining for once popular settings until they need to actually cash in on that nostalgia and pent up demand to correct a sales slump.

At the extreme end of this I think given how disruptive adding a proper psionics system would be to the game, and how the Dark Sun setting (whether or not you think it really needs a full-fledged psionics system) was clearly designed to feature and boost interest in psionics, that the logical thing to do business-wise is save both for near the end of the system's lifespan when they need to shake things up and rely on the prestige of a long requested IP to gin up sales. So my prediction is that Dark Sun will make it to 5e, but only when they deem the system to be in its final waning years. I won't be surprised if it's the last thing they push before they start teasing 6e. And given the post-apocalyptic nature of the setting its a fitting note to end on.
 

Here's something that I don't think has been said yet: The "cameo" setting could be like how Greyhawk cameo'd in Ghost of Saltmarsh, just being the place that the adventures start in a future anthology book. So that could be a cameo of Sigil or the Rock of Bral as the starting place for a book of extra-planar/worldly adventures.

Any thoughts?

I think the cover with Boo and what looks like Planets and stuff tells us what the Camoe is going to be, Spelljammer in a Forgotten Realms adventure. It could be an anthology, but more likely it's a major adventure involving spelljammer, Lantan, and perhaps other FR locations.

Interesting side note the one video game Spelljammer got, Pirates of Realnspace was also a Forgotten Realms crossover (Realmspace being the space within the Forgotten Realms crystal sphere).
 


AcererakTriple6

Autistic DM (he/him)
There's zero chance Wizards would touch those topics as of this year.
Yeah. This site already had the whole "you think Orcs are Black People" flamewar. Mystara basically says that certain D&D races are different groups of people from the real world by having their lands in the world being obviously based off of real world peoples. That's potentially even more problematic than the Vistani. I can't see WotC touching it with a 10-foot pole given the current direction of the game.
 

From a business standpoint I think the logical move is to go hard into Forgotten Realms with products for the next couple years. While I don't think selling more FR to people already playing the game will much help out sales of Baldur's Gate 3, FR Magic Cards, or tickets to see the major motion picture set there, all this Toril-based crossover media is, assuming reasonable success, going to drive more people into trying the game and, at least initially, expecting and wanting it to be the specic IP they were brought into, not another setting they don't know anything about with the same rule set. I know it's not what the average hardcore player is excited about, but WotC has already got their hooks in the average hardcore player, and the game's sales are riding high. Better to leave people pining for once popular settings until they need to actually cash in on that nostalgia and pent up demand to correct a sales slump.

At the extreme end of this I think given how disruptive adding a proper psionics system would be to the game, and how the Dark Sun setting (whether or not you think it really needs a full-fledged psionics system) was clearly designed to feature and boost interest in psionics, that the logical thing to do business-wise is save both for near the end of the system's lifespan when they need to shake things up and rely on the prestige of a long requested IP to gin up sales. So my prediction is that Dark Sun will make it to 5e, but only when they deem the system to be in its final waning years. I won't be surprised if it's the last thing they push before they start teasing 6e. And given the post-apocalyptic nature of the setting its a fitting note to end on.

This forum is not reflective of most players, WotC has straight up said the Forgotten Realms is their most popular setting, hence why it gets the MtG sets and movies and video games, they tried an Eberron MMO and they had to make portal to the Forgotten Realms to turn a profit.
 

Yeah. This site already had the whole "you think Orcs are Black People" flamewar. Mystara basically says that certain D&D races are different groups of people from the real world by having their lands in the world being obviously based off of real world peoples. That's potentially even more problematic than the Vistani. I can't see WotC touching it with a 10-foot pole given the current direction of the game.

Plus it's a Tier 3 setting, suggesting a Tier 2 setting is iffy as is, but a Tier 3 setting is silly no matter what it's place on current politics. It's all about the Tiers folks, it's about the Tiers. Tier 3 settings are worth consideration.
 


With themes of conquest and colonization? Zero chance, come on. lol

It doesn't matter because it's Tier 3, no way a Tier 3 setting gets a setting book, they will do MtG and settings first, best Tier 3 setting get are camoes IF they are super fit a particular book, like Council of Wyrms in Fizbans. Poor Tier 3 setting get crumbs, it's unfair, but that is how it is, WotC is a business.
 

Scribe

Hero
It doesn't matter because it's Tier 3, no way a Tier 3 setting gets a setting book, they will do MtG and settings first, best Tier 3 setting get are camoes IF they are super fit a particular book, like Council of Wyrms in Fizbans. Poor Tier 3 setting get crumbs, it's unfair, but that is how it is, WotC is a business.
Dude you can push your Tier theory to the moon and back, it wouldnt matter if that was what FR was based on, it would NEVER be mentioned again in a Wizards Product published in the year 2021 or beyond.

You will never see 'Here's a setting based on colonization, ransacking, and conquering other people!' literally ever again, come out of Wizards, and any setting it is or was a part of, will be retconned (there is no canon remember) to the Nine Hells and back, if it ever did see print.
 


Urriak Uruk

Debate fuels my Fire
Sorry for my ignorance, but when talking about setting tiers, is Tier 1 best/high or worst/low?

They're referencing this; D&D Monthly Survey | Dungeons & Dragons

The popularity of settings in the survey fell into three distinct clusters. Not surprisingly, our most popular settings from prior editions landed at the top of the rankings, with Eberron, Ravenloft, Dark Sun, Planescape, and the Forgotten Realms all proving equally popular. Greyhawk, Dragonlance, and Spelljammer all shared a similar level of second-tier popularity, followed by a fairly steep drop-off to the rest of the settings. My sense is that Spelljammer has often lagged behind the broad popularity of other settings, falling into love-it-or-hate-it status depending on personal tastes. Greyhawk and Dragonlance hew fairly close to the assumptions we used in creating the fifth edition rulebooks, making them much easier to run with material from past editions. Of the top five settings, four require significant new material to function and the fifth is by far our most popular world.
 

J.Quondam

CR 1/8
They're referencing this; D&D Monthly Survey | Dungeons & Dragons

The popularity of settings in the survey fell into three distinct clusters. Not surprisingly, our most popular settings from prior editions landed at the top of the rankings, with Eberron, Ravenloft, Dark Sun, Planescape, and the Forgotten Realms all proving equally popular. Greyhawk, Dragonlance, and Spelljammer all shared a similar level of second-tier popularity, followed by a fairly steep drop-off to the rest of the settings. My sense is that Spelljammer has often lagged behind the broad popularity of other settings, falling into love-it-or-hate-it status depending on personal tastes. Greyhawk and Dragonlance hew fairly close to the assumptions we used in creating the fifth edition rulebooks, making them much easier to run with material from past editions. Of the top five settings, four require significant new material to function and the fifth is by far our most popular world.
Thanks!
 

Scribe

Hero
So, in my completely unbiased and objective estimation....

S Tier: Planescape.
A Tier: FR, Ravenloft, Dark Sun, Eberron
B Tier:
C Tier: Greyhawk, Dragonlance
D Tier: Spelljammer
E Teir:
F Teir: Everything else.
 

I guess that I'll never get why setting fans are so insistent that everything about their pet setting needs to be covered to be worthwhile for either returning fans or newcomers to the setting.
I just want official Thri-Kreen player race stats, as I eternally huff the copium.

But yeah I suspect Dragonlance may make a showing, if only due to the novel. That's all I really can comment on.
 

Zaukrie

New Publisher
Doesn't the movie take place in FR? If so, there is zero percent chance they don't release items related to that that year (when does it come out?). Seriously, no one is that bad at cross marketing (other than Disney not having baby yoda dolls ready). No one. 100% they do FR stuff the year the movie comes out.

Other than that? I want planejammer. And I kind of want something like what Monte Cook Games did with their 9th world, like Barrier Peaks in DnD......maybe Gamma World? I don't know, something different than normal fantasy. We have plenty of normal fantasy.
 

Dude you can push your Tier theory to the moon and back, it wouldnt matter if that was what FR was based on, it would NEVER be mentioned again in a Wizards Product published in the year 2021 or beyond.

You will never see 'Here's a setting based on colonization, ransacking, and conquering other people!' literally ever again, come out of Wizards, and any setting it is or was a part of, will be retconned (there is no canon remember) to the Nine Hells and back, if it ever did see print.

You do realize that one of the Domains in the recent Ravenloft setting book was explicitly, as stated in the text itself, based off colonization, ransacking, and conquering other people? And in fact, the one who resisted that invading enemy was the one who became the Lord of the Domain?
 

Scribe

Hero
You do realize that one of the Domains in the recent Ravenloft setting book was explicitly based off colonization, ransacking, and conquering other people?
Was it the players doing so, or like most of the Domains I skimmed through its quite clear that the Domains and those running them, are capital E, "Evil" and you as the player are meant to disrupt and/or stop those activities?

That is not the impression I get out of the setting that spawned this discussion.
 

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