Will you buy 4th edition?

[WayneLigon]

There is a very high chance I will buy it. I might not buy it out of the gate since we'll be in the middle of a campaign - very likely non-d20 - at the time but unless I see several things that are really terrible when we start getting the nailed-down final version crunch, I'll get it.

 

[Fifth Element]

However, despite this my decision to buy is dependent on whether they stick with "Asmodeus is a god." If they go with that, I won't buy 4e and I won't ever play 4e (I'm not going to rehash the reasons; please don't ask).

I won't ask, but I will point out that if you don't want your opinion discussed, you probably shouldn't post it on a public message board. If it can't bear discussion, it shouldn't be put in a forum designed for discussion.

 

[delericho]

I won't ask, but I will point out that if you don't want your opinion discussed, you probably shouldn't post it on a public message board. If it can't bear discussion, it shouldn't be put in a forum designed for discussion.

Fair comment. It's a bit of a tricky one, though - if I say nothing whatsoever, then there's no chance they'll make the change, and so I won't be buying 4e. I'd rather it not come to that, so I kinda have to speak up (even if there's almost no chance that they'll make the change).

And so, every so often I pop up (usually in a "Will you buy..." or a "What will make you decide against..." thread) and note that that's a change I would very much like to see made.

As for the reasons themselves, it's not that I want to avoid discussing them, but there is an issue with the rules. Hence the comment that I'd rather not talk about it - I found that without it people would comment that it is an awfully strange thing to base my entire buying decision on (and, I'll concede that that's true).

Basically, it's all just a way of saying, "Hey, Wizards! Any chance you could change this?" without being too much of a nuisance to everyone, and without breaking the board rules.

 

[Fifth Element]

Fair comment. It's a bit of a tricky one, though - if I say nothing whatsoever, then there's no chance they'll make the change, and so I won't be buying 4e. I'd rather it not come to that, so I kinda have to speak up (even if there's almost no chance that they'll make the change).

Fair enough. But perhaps such a problem would best be put to WotC directly, rather than here. Though we think highly of our ability to influence WotC here, the fact is if you want to make sure they consider something specific, you need to address it to them directly.

And I realize why you don't want the discussion here, I remember what it's about.

 

[collin]

I probably will not buy 4th edition, but I will hold out final judgement until I see it.

The game is not the same, despite what the stupid French-guy said in the Youtube video. That is okay, but I see some of the drastic changes they are making with regard to races, classes, feats, skills, and I say, forget it. I am all for making some things more simple, like magic and combat, but I think they've gone beyond the bounds of what D&D has been since its inception. They should have just created a new game and called it something else. It's like making a movie called Superman, but the guy is from Earth who gets hit by radiation or saying a magic word and becomes some weird-looking Matrix-like guy with sunglasses and no cape.

My prediction is 4th edition will be to 3rd edition as 2nd edition was to 1st edition. It will peak well, but early, and decline from there because it will be too foreign to long-time players. They will lose as many customers as they gain. That will result in the inevitable 5th edition to 'correct' what they did wrong with 4th edition. Besides, why after spending so much $$ for 3rd edition would I keep shelling out money for a whole re-do of the same game? To keep WotC people employed? Sorry, not enough incentive for me.

So bottom line: odd editions = good; even editions = bad.

 

[Wormwood]

So bottom line: odd editions = good; even editions = bad.

The Inverted Trek Rule?

Fascinating.

 

[collin]

The Inverted Trek Rule?

Fascinating.

Absolutely!!

Good one!

 

[DungeonmasterCal]

My group has already decided against switching to 4e. Not because of edition hate or anything, but we've invested a LOT of money in the 3.5 rulebooks and feel that edition is fine for our gaming needs. I'll probably buy the 3 core books just to have them and to see what I can retrofit to 3.5, but as for a wholesale switch to the new edition, it's not going to happen for us.

 

[Lord Mhoram]

A bit of an outsider here, as I don't currently play D&D. I plan on looking at the PH, and reading it over, and I will likely buy it - D&D (in whichever incarnation) was my first RPG, and I like to see how the game is being run. I run Fantasy Hero, but I convert a bunch of concepts (races, feats, class skills, spells) from D&D. I fully expect that the 4th PH will have a bunch of nifty things I can steal - so I plan to.

The chance I will actually play the sucker is pretty slim though.

 

[Man in the Funny Hat]

I WILL buy it sight unseen. Whether or not I use it remains to be determined.