Heroes#10: The Eclipse : Part 1/Nov2008

[Man in the Funny Hat]

What I don't get is why most of the people who post in ENWorld's "Heroes" threads even watch the show. If it is so crappy, why do you watch?

PLEASE tell me why I watch. I can no longer justify it to myself, but I can't stop. I need an intervention - or involuntary commitment or something. I think the only thing that continues to draw me in are the hot women.

 

[Hand of Evil]

weak 4/10 - had some good character interaction but overall WTF, unless there is a freaking big mutant floating around the earth, this one sucked. It did not move the story forward that I could see.

 

[Relique du Madde]

Thanks,

Its only been the last few weeks. I'm not sure why I started but I am having fun with it right now.

Brown Jenkin, if you continue posting them could you place the real time reviews in a spoiler box? That way those people who don't like seeing the spoilers could ignore them, while those of us who live on the west coast could still read them (to decide whether an episode is worth watching).

Can someone explain the whole Clair-bear is the catalyst thing?

Didn't a bunch of people already have powers before Clair was born (Adam Monroe I'm looking at you)?

1) The writers love watching her run around in her skintight tops
2) The writers did not have the entire plot planned out when they killed off Adam.
3) PA Patrelli is creepy old man with incestuous pederastic tendencies.

My vote for the story getting the axe this week is Hiro/Ando....

SNIP

However, it really didn't add anything to the movement of the story. Also, add me to the list of people feeling bad for Masi Oka.

I seriously wonder what he did to get the producers and writers pissed at him. Seriously, if they writers cared for Hiro's character the scene in PArkman's Apartment would have gone like this:

Ando: Matt Parkman, you have to fix Hiro. He think's he's 10 years old.
Matt: But I need to go find Daphne.. I love her..
Hiro: < Hello Mr. Turtlesan, I have super powers. Do you have super powers? >
Ando: < #%^& !!!> Hiro's talking to the turtle again.. You need to do something quick...
Matt: I don't know if I could help him.. Let me try..
*Matt makes strange faces as he tries to read Hiro's mind and hiro makes strange faces*
Hiro's Thoughts: < Parkersan makes me laugh. He looks constipated. >
Matt: I can't understand him.... He's thinking in Japanese..
Ando: Then read my mind... I'll help you understand Japanese...
Matt: I don't know...
Ando: Just try!
*Matt makes a funny face as he tries to read Ando's thoughts*
Matt: Just who are you calling a lazy fat bastard?!?!

**Commercial Break**

*Fade in as Matt is reading Hiro's mind*
*Suddenly a smile breaks out on Hiro's face*
Hiro: Parkmansan! You have a turtle!
Matt: We have no time! I have to go find Daphne! She thought about going back home.. to a farm in Nebraska. You have to take me there!
Hiro: Who is Daphne?
Ando: Nemesis...
Hiro: Eh? You're dating the bad guy?
Matt: It's a long story....

 

[Arnwyn]

Even though it involved even more painfully awful character inconsistency (Elle and Sylar -- really, what the hell?

No kidding. What. The. Hell. was that? We couldn't figure out what the hell was going on. What was that whole sequence?

And it was a damn, damn (damn) shame that Bennett didn't break Elle's neck after bashing her, and/or grab the gun and put a bullet in each of their heads. A wasted opportunity that would have made the show tons better, for me.

And, even though there was still wide-scale nonsense in the episode, I thought the characters felt much more convincing. The reveal about Daphne's condition was pretty cool too.

Agreed. That was the best part of the episode and stopped me from entirely throwing my hands up in the air in disgust.

What I don't get is why most of the people who post in ENWorld's "Heroes" threads even watch the show. If it is so crappy, why do you watch?

Stupid hope. (Long since covered in previous threads, BTW. Sorry you missed it.)

 

[Felon]

PLEASE tell me why I watch. I can no longer justify it to myself, but I can't stop. I need an intervention - or involuntary commitment or something. I think the only thing that continues to draw me in are the hot women.

Hey, the basic concept of Heroes is pure coolness for a comic fan. The execution is what's hurting here, giving us a profound impression that there's a "making it up as we go along" strategy at work.

The eclipse can be the mcguffin that saves the show. Many characters have powers that need to be reined in, and this is the opportunity to do it.

 

[Felon]

Can someone explain the whole Clair-bear is the catalyst thing?

Didn't a bunch of people already have powers before Clair was born (Adam Monroe I'm looking at you)?

Well, there's the possibility that Claire is not the first catalyst. There's also the possiblity that the catalyst triggers the next big push forward, triggering powers in greater numbers.

The show was based on the premise of "save the cheerleader, save the world", but once Sylar actually managed to do what he spent season 1 trying to do (take her powers), it begged the question of what the point of her is. She's supposed to be important in the show's mythos, and if she's not then Claire really ought to just go back to school once nobody cares about getting their hands on her anymore. So, they cooked up the catalyst idea.

 

[LightPhoenix]

The show was based on the premise of "save the cheerleader, save the world", but once Sylar actually managed to do what he spent season 1 trying to do (take her powers), it begged the question of what the point of her is.

This reminds me of the original idea for the show - a rotating cast of characters, some of whom would leave or become background characters once their story was over. I wish they had stuck with that idea... then they wouldn't be forced into shoehorning characters into a story. We could still get glimpses of Claire's life through HRG, for example. Ah well.

Also, while I feel bad for Masi Oka, I think I feel worse for Ramamurthy... mostly because his character has been crapped on the most. I remember a quote that was generally, "If Suresh says something about a power, it's usually correct."

Sorry, all nostalgic. High school reunion coming up this Friday.

 

[JoeGKushner]

If the characters could stick with one character development for say, three episodes, I might start enjoying the show.

As it is, I'm watching it now with the HOPE that it'll get better.

 

[Relique du Madde]

Also, while I feel bad for Masi Oka, I think I feel worse for Ramamurthy... mostly because his character has been crapped on the most.

That's not even mentioning that Surresh routinely appears on many the "most worthless characters" and "most annoying characters" lists that many entertainment magazines and blogs create. It's one thing to play a character that is despised because (s)/he is a bad guy but it is another to have one that is despised due to bad writing. Thankfully for Ramamurthy, Surresh wasn't conceived as being a comic relief character, because if he were, he would be the Heroes equivalent of Jar-Jar

 

[Brown Jenkin]

Brown Jenkin, if you continue posting them could you place the real time reviews in a spoiler box? That way those people who don't like seeing the spoilers could ignore them, while those of us who live on the west coast could still read them (to decide whether an episode is worth watching).

No problem, I will try to remember next time.