TSR TSR3 Throws In Towel, Rebrands Wonderfilled

In the news story that never ends, after reversing its position earlier and admitting that it was NOT the original TSR reincarnated, the new TSR company, embroiled in acrimony for the last two weeks, and having blamed the widespread criticism it has received on Wizards of the Coast, has deleted its own Twitter account and rebranded its website, misspelling it’s own name in the process. In...

In the news story that never ends, after reversing its position earlier and admitting that it was NOT the original TSR reincarnated, the new TSR company, embroiled in acrimony for the last two weeks, and having blamed the widespread criticism it has received on Wizards of the Coast, has deleted its own Twitter account and rebranded its website, misspelling it’s own name in the process.

In just a week a much-loved trademark, which was associated with the creation of our entire hobby, and which generally attracted nostalgic affection as recently as a fortnight ago, has been utterly trashed in an astonishing display of self-destructive publicity and incompetence. Two companies (one of which was directly responsible for the damage) have now divested themselves of it, and most major conventions have banned the company behind it, due to the actions and statements of three people: Justin LaNasa, Stephen Dinehart, and Ernie Gygax. "TSR" is no longer a brand which anybody wants to be associated with — not even the company which ‘relaunched’ it two weeks ago, let alone the company they sniped it from. It has been a spectacular masterclass in how not to manage a brand.

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This followed an astonishing day of activity where one of the three TSR3 founders, Stephen Dinehart announced - publicly! - that he had blocked WotC and Hasbro on Twitter. After everybody thought things couldn't get any more ridiculous, they did.

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As TSR2 rebranded to Solarian this week (after TSR3 sniped their name and trademark due to a missed filing), we've now gone from two TSRs to zero TSRs in the space of a few days.

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Most people assume that WotC (or Hasbro) has been in contact with TSR3 regarding its use of copyrighted imagery.

Meanwhile, search teams have been sent out for Michael, the mysterious PR officer announced last week who made two posts and then was never heard from again. In the meantime, somebody has set up a parody Twitter account for him.
 

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Why not Hasbro to buy the brand to use this like a subsidiary in the same way than Avalon Hill? For example for a new videogame studio more focused into CRPG.
 

Ulfgeir

Hero
I had a conversation with a buddy that works at WotC about how they go about defending their IP awhile back and his response was that if someone doesn’t comply promptly with the WotC legal sharks then that will release the legal Megalodons that Hasbro has cloned from ancient DNA. It’s all fun and games until prehistoric predators show up.
So what would that make the lawyers for Disney or Nintendo?
 



Mannahnin

Scion of Murgen (He/Him)
Wait. Laser Tag has lore?
It does, though the three (and a fourth unpublished, apparently) Choose Your Own Adventure-style game books TSR published when they had the Lazer Tag license from Worlds of Wonder in the 80s weren't written by Ward.


Ward wrote a rule book full of different scenarios and rules for play:

 

Jer

Legend
Supporter
Why not Hasbro to buy the brand to use this like a subsidiary in the same way than Avalon Hill? For example for a new videogame studio more focused into CRPG.
Wizards spent years distancing the D&D brand from the TSR brand. They spent a lot of time and effort trying to make people forget about TSR and their terrible business practices. People forget that TSR didn't just drive their company into bankruptcy, they also alienated fans with lawsuits and the threat of lawsuits not just against other small rpg companies but also against fan works all through the 90s and really didn't understand how the internet worked at all. And with the bankruptcy retailers took a big hit from TSR just suddenly giving up the ghost. (I remember feeling really bad for Sean Reynolds when he started posting on Usenet and was clearly trying to do what he could in his job as TSR's internet dude trying to do the dual role of tamping down on fan anger online while also trying to get the company to understand that they were shooting themselves in the foot every time they tried to pull their restrictive baloney on their own fans).

The nostalgic love for TSR is a recent thing in the last decade or so - mostly a product of the OSR looking back at the company with rose-tinted glasses. For most of the 80s and 90s TSR was a company that nobody really loved so much as they were the 800 lb. gorilla who owned D&D and who like to throw their weight around. I can totally see why Hasbro would have no interest in trying to do anything with the company brand at all - it was so toxic when Wizards bought it and this little go-around with the brand really hasn't done anything to improve on that image.
 

embee

Lawyer by day. Rules lawyer by night.
Next week, they will rebrand as WFU, Inc.

As in, "We're F**k-Ups."

Copy from the future:

Welcome to WFU, where we know we're f**k-ups and proudly wallow in that status. We here at WFU would love to march proudly into the future but we're stuck in the past, having shot ourselves in the foot repeatedly.

No, really... We're just hobbling around on bloody stumps at this point.

If you're looking for inclusiveness, well, look elsewhere pal. We believe that TTRPGs are supposed to be power fantasies for AARP members who were bullied in high school for not being good at sports or having too much acne. If you're looking for a good time founded on camaraderie, solid roleplay, and expanding your horizons, go play some WOTC game that is all about adapting to societal changes.

Here, we revel in anti-modern tendencies. Why? Because...

WE'RE F**K-UPS!

 

embee

Lawyer by day. Rules lawyer by night.
Wizards spent years distancing the D&D brand from the TSR brand. They spent a lot of time and effort trying to make people forget about TSR and their terrible business practices. People forget that TSR didn't just drive their company into bankruptcy, they also alienated fans with lawsuits and the threat of lawsuits not just against other small rpg companies but also against fan works all through the 90s and really didn't understand how the internet worked at all. And with the bankruptcy retailers took a big hit from TSR just suddenly giving up the ghost. (I remember feeling really bad for Sean Reynolds when he started posting on Usenet and was clearly trying to do what he could in his job as TSR's internet dude trying to do the dual role of tamping down on fan anger online while also trying to get the company to understand that they were shooting themselves in the foot every time they tried to pull their restrictive baloney on their own fans).

The nostalgic love for TSR is a recent thing in the last decade or so - mostly a product of the OSR looking back at the company with rose-tinted glasses. For most of the 80s and 90s TSR was a company that nobody really loved so much as they were the 800 lb. gorilla who owned D&D and who like to throw their weight around. I can totally see why Hasbro would have no interest in trying to do anything with the company brand at all - it was so toxic when Wizards bought it and this little go-around with the brand really hasn't done anything to improve on that image.
WOTC is such an evil selfish corporation, that one of the first things they did was create the Open Game License.
 


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