D&D 5E Revisited Setting News: Its not the 2023 Classic setting, but rather for 2024

[Parmandur]

12% is not a lot of people nearly 90% were born during 4E's print run in 2014.

On the contrary, 12% of 40-50 million people is millions of young people, way more than any of us will ever meet in person.

 

[Plaguescarred]

WotC said at the turn of the century thst 20 million people worldwide had ever played D&D, IIRC. Ergo, we can conclude at least that 30 million people are new since 3E, at least, so well over 50%

20 milion at the start of 3E run. It surly gained more until 4E but we don't know how many are in this 50 milion statistics wise is what i'm saying.

 

[Plaguescarred]

On the contrary, 12% of 40-50 million people is millions of young people, way more than any of us will ever meet in person.

It's a lot of people i don't say the contrary, but you said "a very healthy percentage of players" it's a small pourcentage of players that weren't even born yet when 4E was in print.

 

[Parmandur]

It's a lot of people i don't say the contrary, but you said "a very healthy percentage of players" it's a small pourcentage of players that weren't even born yet when 4E was in print.

I'll modify 5hst somewhat to "weren't born or were wearing diapers when 4E was in print" because very few 3 year olds probably picked up 4E, and I would say that 1 in 8 is a very healthybpercentage of players

 

[Plaguescarred]

I'll modify 5hst somewhat to "weren't born or were wearing diapers when 4E was in print" because very few 3 year olds probably picked up 4E, and I would say that 1 in 8 is a very healthybpercentage of players

4E was in print until 2014, how are you calculating 7 years old to be 1/8 of the player base when the latest statistics don't even have 1% in 14 or younger.

 

[Urriak Uruk]

The last similar statistics they put out had 40 millions estimated. We don't know before that. We don't know the estimated number of millions of players in TSR era and Living Greyhawk neither. Even less combined.

Experience would be enought to become familiar with the games.

I think you and @Parmandur are arguing a bit too much on numbers when you seem to have different ideas for what "experienced" means.

I think it is safe to say based on those charts that at least 40% of the player-base is 25 or younger, or Gen Z. 5th edition was released in 2014, so these players would be at oldest 19 when been playing 4th edition. Most would be younger, or much younger.

Now, we all have our own "gaming bubbles," but I'm someone who is 25 (just within Gen Z), and I can say that out of everyone I've played with, only a couple have tried a different D&D edition. More are experienced with 5th edition (it's been out for 6 years) but that's not really the same thing.

I think it is safe to say with 5E's explosive growth over the past few years, most current players have not played an edition earlier than 5. Combination of factors for that I think, including Critical Role, Dimension 20, NADDPOD, mainstreaming of Marvel and fantasy generally, nostalgia for pre-2000s material, etc.

An additional thing; your not likely to meet many "inexperienced players" online. They are by nature inexperienced, so are starting their first couple of games. Why would they be joining online forums for TTRPGs when picking up a hobby so recently?

 

[Parmandur]

4E was in print until 2014, how are you calculating 7 years old to be 1/8 of the player base when the latest statistics don't even have 1% in 14 or younger.

In 2019, a full 1 out of 8 players was aged 8-12, when their cutoff for measuring was 8 years old. The next year, they set 25 as their cutoff age, but those millions of middle schoolers are still around even if they aren't being counted at the moment. The point is, a huge number of players are young, as @Urriak Uruk says. Most people playing are younger, and the core audience for their marketing is middle school lthrough college (which has long been the case). I believe that there is a case to be made for marketing Greyhawk to younger players, but pretending that D&D is a game played primarily by older people ain't it.

 

[Plaguescarred]

Some join Roll20 having never played 5E but having played earlier edition for exemple was was i meant, not forums.

 

[Aldarc]

As an observer, this conversation is starting to feel like some random guy on internet tells WotC why they are wrong about their game's demographics.

 

[Plaguescarred]

pretending that D&D is a game played primarily by older people ain't it.

I never said that, i said that the D&D audience is composed far more of experience players than new ones. Even those that started with 5E could have been exposed to Greyhawk through Ghost of Satlmarsh.