TSR Now it’s WotC’s Turn: WotC Moves Against TSR3

I guess after you provoke somebody enough, they’ll eventually bite back. The company has begun trademark cancellation procedures against the newest TSR.

TSR3 briefly filed for a court declaration on Dec 7th as to their ownership of the TSR trademarks — with an IndieGoGo campaign to fund it — and then voluntarily dismissed it a couple of days later on Dec 9th.

This filing is dated Dec 6th, the day before TSR3 launched its campaign.

In WotC’s response, they cite fraud as one of the causes of action, alleging that TSR3 misled the trademark office in its original application.

Mike Dunford, on Twitter, breaks down the action.

TSR - TSR3.5 Voluntarily Dismisses Lawsuit

A lawsuit filed by TSR3 against D&D owners Wizards of the Coast a few days ago was voluntarily dismissed. Dismissal without prejudice means that the suit can be filed again. The suit lasted two days from the 7th to the 9th of December. The IndieGoGo fundraiser to fund it is still running...

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TSR - TSR3.5 Launches IndieGogo Campaign to "Stop" WotC

The latest in the TSR3 saga, which has gone quiet for a while, is a new IndieGoGo campaign launched to "stop Wizards of the Coast". They cite wrongful bullying of TSR, and refusal to answer requests that WotC show TSR "proof of their claims" (although the campaign page doesn't mention what those...

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[Faolyn]

Manos has bits of creativity, and I give it lots of leeway for being an actual amateur's first attempt. It would be like if some film school student's student film was released -- it isn't good, but you expect that.

Honestly, the most creative thing about Manos is that it involved a middle-aged couple and their kid (and dog) on vacation and not a bunch of high school or college students on vacation.

 

[Jer]

Honestly, the most creative thing about Manos is that it involved a middle-aged couple and their kid (and dog) on vacation and not a bunch of high school or college students on vacation.

"Middle aged" couple? Diane Adelson was 20-something when the movie was made (I'm thinking it was 22 or 23 IIRC). Warren was in his 40s but he cast a wife who was half his age (making it pretty typical casting )

I will agree that making it a family rather than a bunch of teens makes a difference. But the amateurishness of the whole movie extends into the lighting and the make-up which serves to make poor Adelson look at least 10 years older than she actually was. (And of course making Jackie Neyman sound 50 years older than she actually was - the dubbing in that movie makes me laugh every time).

 

[Remathilis]

what is your opinion of Manos: the hands of fate"

The sequels were better.

 

[Umbran]

"Middle aged" couple? Diane Adelson was 20-something when the movie was made (I'm thinking it was 22 or 23 IIRC). Warren was in his 40s but he cast a wife who was half his age (making it pretty typical casting )

I will agree that making it a family rather than a bunch of teens makes a difference. But the amateurishness of the whole movie extends into the lighting and the make-up which serves to make poor Adelson look at least 10 years older than she actually was.

So, if they make her look 10 years older, isn't that actually supporting the idea that they're supposed to be middle aged?

 

[Bolares]

So, if they make her look 10 years older, isn't that actually supporting the idea that they're supposed to be middle aged?

wait... 30-something is middle aged? I thought the white hairs where just stress....

 

[Faolyn]

"Middle aged" couple? Diane Adelson was 20-something when the movie was made (I'm thinking it was 22 or 23 IIRC). Warren was in his 40s but he cast a wife who was half his age (making it pretty typical casting )

I will agree that making it a family rather than a bunch of teens makes a difference. But the amateurishness of the whole movie extends into the lighting and the make-up which serves to make poor Adelson look at least 10 years older than she actually was. (And of course making Jackie Neyman sound 50 years older than she actually was - the dubbing in that movie makes me laugh every time).

As you say, the poor lighting and make-up (and film quality) makes them look older.

 

[Scribe]

wait... 30-something is middle aged? I thought the white hairs where just stress....

Considering how poorly I feel post Covid Years + Post 30s, I'm fine calling 30s middle age as I clearly am now in my twilight...

 

[Bolares]

Considering how poorly I feel post Covid Years + Post 30s, I'm fine calling 30s middle age as I clearly am now in my twilight...

I just turned 30 last year... Until then I could drink 2lts of beer in a night and be fine. Now, If I drink 4 cans I'm dead the next day...

 

[Jer]

The sequels were better.

Manos Returns I'd almost agree - it's still not great but it's a good homage to the movie.

Rise of Torgo I'll just have to disagree. I saw it for free and wanted my money back.

 

[Jer]

So, if they make her look 10 years older, isn't that actually supporting the idea that they're supposed to be middle aged?

If it was intentional then sure, but it wasn't. It was just a dude making the movie wanting to have his on-screen wife be a 20 year old - probably also so he could get her on screen in her underwear because that was what you needed in a horror movie at the time.

Also I don't think she looks middle aged - she looks like she's in her 30s. If that's middle aged I should be allowed to retire at 50...