D&D (2024) Why No Monster Creation Rules in D&D 2024?

Tales of the Valiant apparently has monster creation rules and it didn't stop their latest monster book Kickstarter from funding.
I'm not saying that it's a reason that'd hold water- but it's an (unlikely) reason to exclude monster creation rules from the book. I'm using Executive logic, not reality.
 

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The old rules haven't disappeared.
They aren't calibrated for a 2024 character's power level, so they aren't going to work as well.

I get that you want something official and I can relate because I'm dissapointed we don't have them in the MM, I just don't think it's that big of a deal.
I mean, if you're trying to convince me that this isn't important to me, you're doomed to failure. It is important to me. That isn't really up for debate.

Which is why the most effective reasoning has been showing that it's not important for newbies and isn't easy to couch design advice with it.

But just because I can get why they might not've included this in the core books doesn't mean that it's not important to me or that I don't need it to run D&D the way I like to do run D&D.
 


I'm of the mindset that there are more monsters out there than I'll ever use. But it hasn't stopped me from accumulating so, so many of the books (including all the Kobold Press Tomes and Creature Codex as well as MCDM's Flee, Mortals!). I'll tweak monsters here and there but I've never felt the need to create one from scratch so these "missing" rules don't move the needle of concern for our table. I also don't worry about "balanced" combat encounters, but that's another thread topic all together.

Now, for those who really need those monster creation rules, I say go get Sly Flourish's Forge of Foes. If nothing else, it's a good read and, as mentioned upthread, stands up well with the 2024 rule set.

Not sure you want to buy it? Go to that link anyway and get 30 pages for free...
 

Then you're in a pickle, because no one's going to get excited about buying the same thing again, so your marketing really has to skirt the edge of honesty to manipulate folks into doing so.

IMO, of course.
At some point you have to blame the customer.

I work in sales.

At least once a day I say "Those are 2 complete different things" or "You can't have it both ways"

You can't have a new math paradigm AND be backwards compatible.
 


I'm of the mindset that there are more monsters out there than I'll ever use. But it hasn't stopped me from accumulating so, so many of the books (including all the Kobold Press Tomes and Creature Codex as well as MCDM's Flee, Mortals!). I'll tweak monsters here and there but I've never felt the need to create one from scratch so these "missing" rules don't move the needle of concern for our table. I also don't worry about "balanced" combat encounters, but that's another thread topic all together.

Now, for those who really need those monster creation rules, I say go get Sly Flourish's Forge of Foes. If nothing else, it's a good read and, as mentioned upthread, stands up well with the 2024 rule set.

Not sure you want to buy it? Go to that link anyway and get 30 pages for free...
Sure. Everyone has monster creation rules -- except D&D 2024. Seems weird.
 


Sure. Everyone has monster creation rules -- except D&D 2024. Seems weird.
Not at all.

Everyone else is small.
They won't get criticism for being incomplete in their monster creation nor need new shiniest to sell their books as their customers are already a subset of the full fanbase.

I could make my own 5e compatible monster book with monster creation rules that only work for gosh monsters and no one will make a thread saying "Minigiant's Hunter Handbook sucks. Its monster creation rules only produces good Ranger type creatures. I wish he included more monster subclasses."
 

Not at all.

Everyone else is small.
They won't get criticism for being incomplete in their monster creation nor need new shiniest to sell their books as their customers are already a subset of the full fanbase.
Who cares? Or more accurately, why should we care about that? The fact is, they have decided not to make the best game they can, so they're going to get criticized. Part of the penalty for that popularity that's so important to them.
 

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