Battlestar Galactica-Final Season (4) 4/4/08--He That Believeth In Me

[The Grumpy Celt]

Well, what ever they are,

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I think they calling them alien's is not too far off the mark. They will not be the "normal" Cylons or humans that we have known for five years now. So, even if they are not little green men, "aliens" is still an apt term.

I wonder how long it will take for Roslyn and Adama to learn about Baltar's location and activities.

 

[Brown Jenkin]

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I think there is a 3rd force, but I wouldn't assume that they are aliens. BSG creators seem very adamant against introducing aliens in the show.
There might in fact be gods, or it might just be the "Original Colonists" that are still around and manipulating the events. Or the 3rd faction is a actually an alliance of humans and cylons. (What they are trying to achieve is still unclear. But I guess it is not the Total Annihilation of either species, though they might be willing to cause heavy casualties on both sides, maybe to unify them.)
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Except that the new series has pulled storylines from the original series and one of those storylines was the encounter with the beings of light. What they were was never fully determined as the show never had a chance to continue properly.
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[wolff96]

I'll leave the speculation, the drama, and the episode description to everyone else.

I just wanted to say: $&#* yeah, Battlestar is BACK! That episode rocked.

(And I loved Tigh's scene on the bridge, even though I *knew* from the moment it started that it was some kind of hallucination.)

The Cylons retreating after the one scanned Anders was brutally awesome.

 

[Thornir Alekeg]

My wife almost woke the kids up with her scream when Tighe shot Adama. She was completely suckered in and started flipping out about the writers killing off Adama.

Great episode. I wish I didn't have to wait for each one.

 

[Villano]

(And I loved Tigh's scene on the bridge, even though I *knew* from the moment it started that it was some kind of hallucination.)

I was actually fooled for a second. I thought that they were going to reveal that Adama was the final Cylon. Then I realized that that wouldn't make much sense since he would've met up with Tigh and the others earlier. Plus, why would a Final Five shoot another Final Five?

BTW, is anyone else confused by the logic in this episode? The crew seems convinced that the Cylons could have wiped them out in the attack and are confused as to why they would retreat. Now, they seem to think that Starbuck is a Cylon and she is trying to lead them away from Earth as some sort of plot. Does that make any sense? They hold off destroying the fleet (or destroying Galactica and capturing the fleet) in order to lure them into an ambush in order to destroy the fleet (or destroy Galactica and capture the fleet) at some point in the future? :\

I can understand the concern that Starbuck is a Cylon, but it seems their line of thinking is overly complicated.

Personally, I'm with the group that thinks that

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the Beings of Light from the original series are responsible for Starbuck's reappearance. They might turn out to be "the Gods", or maybe they are from Earth (who is to say that Galactica will reach 21st century Earth?). Or the Final Five Cylon types might be the Beings of Light? Weren't they glowing when Xena (I can't remember the character's name) saw them?

 

[Thornir Alekeg]

BTW, is anyone else confused by the logic in this episode? The crew seems convinced that the Cylons could have wiped them out in the attack and are confused as to why they would retreat. Now, they seem to think that Starbuck is a Cylon and she is trying to lead them away from Earth as some sort of plot. Does that make any sense? They hold off destroying the fleet (or destroying Galactica and capturing the fleet) in order to lure them into an ambush in order to destroy the fleet (or destroy Galactica and capture the fleet) at some point in the future? :\

I can understand the concern that Starbuck is a Cylon, but it seems their line of thinking is overly complicated.

Have you seen the latest Order of the Stick? In this case I'm sure the thinking is that "It's only episode 1 of a new season so they can't wipe us out yet, but Starbuck might be leading us to our doom just in time for the season finale."

Seriously, I agree with you, but as far as Roslin is concerned, there is room for only one person with divine guidance and she isn't going to give that up to Starbuck.

 

[Sir Brennen]

I'm just waiting for the writers to kill one of the Final 4 of 5 and finding out what happens.

My guess... they resurrect on Earth. And that Starbuck is indeed the Fifth of the Final Five and that's what happened to her. Which is why she has a brand new Viper.

 

[Kobold Avenger]

I liked the gags they did with Baltar as Jesus. It was funny when it was the Hallucinatory Six talking to Baltar, and everyone thinks he's praying. He's still the most slippery character in the show, as he finds yet another way to still be alive after everything that's happened.

And nothing beats the irony of Anders asking, "Will you still love me if I was a cylon from the start" and Starbuck's response to that.

 

[Einan]

Rampant speculation here:

[sblock] Okay, the phrase "This has all happened before" keeps playing in my head. What if the reason that the 13th colony left was because they too created Cylons or at least an artificial life? The descendents of those left behind interbred with the cylons and everyone alive today has at least some cylon blood. That's why Dr Baltar's cylon detector doesn't work: too much background radiation.

Also, what if the cylons are the original earth-made cylons come again? And when they get to Earth, it turns out Earth has been waiting for this moment? And recognizes the models? Even the final five? And why are their 12 colonies and 12 models of cylon? Are the original colonies named after the first models?

Enough for now. I need my BSG fix. Why does Friday take so long?

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[LightPhoenix]

I liked the gags they did with Baltar as Jesus. It was funny when it was the Hallucinatory Six talking to Baltar, and everyone thinks he's praying. He's still the most slippery character in the show, as he finds yet another way to still be alive after everything that's happened.

Or for that matter, his cult mostly being nubile young women, one of which he promptly sleeps with. Baltar's story had me laughing right until the attack, and then I stopped. I think Baltar, for all his rampant egomania, is deeply troubled by what he did, and he's suicidal. I don't think he was asking for his life to be taken for the boy's... just that his life be taken at all.

And nothing beats the irony of Anders asking, "Will you still love me if I was a cylon from the start" and Starbuck's response to that.

I kept waiting for one of the Four to trigger in the battle. I find it interesting that it wasn't a Human-form Cylon that activated the eye-glow (after all, Anders has been in contact with most of them) but one of the "grunts."

I think the unspoken realization in CIC between Adama and Roslin was that the Cylons recognized a Final Five in the air. Starbuck's reappearance conveniently shifted attention away from the pilots and on to her. Whether that was intentional or not is unknown. It pretty much gave Anders the pass though, as I'm sure the next move would have been to inspect the pilots, starting with the nuggets.

I like that Tigh brough up Baltar's Cylon-detector. However, once the truth was out about Baltar, I'm amazed they haven't had Gaeta re-test it on Caprica Six. I mean, they have a control! Maybe it's the scientist in me talking.