BattleStar Galactica:Season 3.0--11/03/06--Arc 5

Brakkart said:
Personally the talk of a human empire etc has me wondering if this show will pick up another of the ideas from the classic BSG series, namely the planet Terra which was home to a militaristic society of humans. Granted the idea would need some work from its original inception, but I think it could provide a whole slew of plotlines for numerous episodes with the RTF finding "Earth" of a sort.
I don't think that another human Empire besides Earth makes sense - the story was already a weakness in the original series - there was a big empire of humans - why fear extinction if there are so many humans around? Or will the Cylons destroy these worlds too? (Logically, they would). Instead of running, humanity should have gone back into full war at that time - even if the Terrans were evil, they would still see the threat by the Cylons and could certainly work out some kind of alliance.
But this would destroy the premise of the show - Galactica and the last remains of humanity running from the Cylons on the search for Earth.

If there is a Terran Empire (or Alliance?), it should be from Earth, and finding it would mean the end of the story.
 

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My personal theory for Earth:

In one of the blog or podcasts, I think RDM said they weren't ignoring that all the scientific evidence that says that humans evolved on Earth.

"' Life here began out there', these are the first words of the Sacred Scrolls!" was Adama's quote from the miniseries.

The exodus from Kobol was about 2000 years before the exodus from the colonies. The civilization of the colonies had an awful lot in common with modern Earth. Similar fashions, their cities had similar architecture, lots of things that make it seem like they came from us.

Not to mention that the religions of both the Colonials and Cylons seem to be strongly derived from Earth.

The fact that the original flags of the 12 colonies reflected how the constellations looked from Earth means that the founders of the 12 had to have at least been to Earth or their predecessors had.

It's also interesting that the scroll of Pythia describes their entire voyage apparently, meaning somebody from that group also had to make it back to the Colonies to relay the story.

I think that "what really happened" was that in the future relative to us, Earth was polluted and ruined, and mankind had developed interstellar travel, and found far from us a single habitable world. It recieved the name Kobol and mankind left Earth to settle a new world. Mankind entered a seeming golden age, massive changes in religion, some changes in culture, new developments in technology. However, strife among the Lords of Kobol meant that another exodus was on the way. Now, mankind had discovered 12 more worlds, each named after a constellation of the zodiac, and entered a new era, but a final group decided to go and reclaim Earth, halfway across the Galaxy.

Earth may have been terraformed back to shape, and now millennia in the future, it's a peaceful and advanced world, not accustomed to war and knowing only distant tales of cousins across the galaxy. They know nothing of the Cylons, and they are most certainly not prepared for war.

Yes, for Galactica's voyage to mean something, Earth won't be a superpower of the stars that can make the Cylons tremble, but it won't be an uninhabited paradise.

A "Galactica 1980" approach of finding modern-day Earth seems lame and cheesy, and unlike the original series New Galactica isn't a "Planet of the Week" show in the Star Trek mold where every week they find another Earthlike world with humans on it (like a transparent Cold War analogy, or a Wild West planet, or a casino planet. . .). Habitable planets are rare and special in this series, alien races are unknown, and when they find Earth, I doubt they'll come into orbit at the year 2010 AD or thereabouts (more like 5000 AD I think myself).
 



I suspect that Earth was the original homeworld, and that the Colonies are in fact the product of an ancient Human civilization (let's call it Atlantis for now). When (if) the Fleet gets to earth I suspect they will find that the Atlantis civilization has not progressed but rather died out almost to the point of extenction. The fleet arives and provides enough genetic diversity to get humanity restarted and refounds Atlantis -only to have climatic shifts, decaying infrastructure, etc to eventually reduce them to a primative technology level. The Cyclons might even show up to but due to a revelation from God give up their efforts to exterminate humanity and instead begin to intermingle with the population. Flashforward to the last sceen set in the early 21st century of a Viper being hauled out of the Antartic ice.


As for the 5 they dont talk about: What if they gave up being Cylons and fully embraced humanity? They might have seen the others as evil and driven them away. But, some of those 5 models are in the fleet -knowingly or not.
 

I had several thoughts watching that episode;

The style was deliberately different for the Basestar, to convey the different world they lived in.

The way the Cylons could choose how to view the world reminded me of setting the Wallpaper, display settings and screen saver on a computer.

I read once where a NASA scientist sneezed on part of a space probe and the probe was later launched, spent time in space and was recovered. It was discovered that some of the bacteria from the sneeze was still viable. Maybe the “beacon” the Cylons recovered was not a trap, but an accident. There is an irony, and a sense of science fiction tradition, to the vast menace of the Cylon being devastated by the common cold.

Tricia Halfer will do almost anything as an actress.

I wonder if the Cylon’s are going to dump Baltar on the dead Basestar for some reason, or if the plague is going to kill the Basestar he is on – maybe he brought it back with him somehow.

And does the Horsehead Nebula look like a lion from the other side or a different angle?
 

wingsandsword said:
My personal theory for Earth:
Earth may have been terraformed back to shape, and now millennia in the future, it's a peaceful and advanced world, not accustomed to war and knowing only distant tales of cousins across the galaxy. They know nothing of the Cylons, and they are most certainly not prepared for war.

Or Earth, long abandoned for Kobol after an ecological holocaust has been quietly put back into shape by its caretakers. A race that appears human but is not. A race tht we created to toil over millenia to put aright what we could not.

Humans could not survive on that ruined Earth. Only machines could.

And so it was that the Earth was taken over by robots who have evolved into human form, awaiting humanity's return.

Earth is in the hands of the first Cylons. But I expect being 4,000+ years old - instead of 40 or 50 years - has given them a dramatically different outlook.

All of this has happened before; all of this will happen again.

Perhaps the Earth's custodians are more in the style of Aasimov's robots, and obey those laws.

Earth was preserved and repaired for humanity's return not for the Cylons.
 

Steel_Wind said:
Earth was preserved and repaired for humanity's return not for the Cylons.

ROBOT WARS!!!

And does the Horsehead Nebula look like a lion from the other side or a different angle?

I thought it kind of looked like a roaring lion. But it wasn't a spitting image, much like the Netherlands looks like a lion to some if you see it on a map.

I am crapping myself waiting to download today's episode on sunday.
 

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