Battlestar Galactica-Final Season (4) 5/16/08--Guess What's Coming to Dinner

[Mark Hope]

I thought that was because of the way Tigh was treated.

Baltar too - didn't Deanna torture him quite a bit?

I was pretty sure for a while that Baltar was the Final Cylon, because he shares some visualisation abilities with the cylons, because he matches some stuff from the First Hybrid's prophecy (coming from darkness into the light, seeking redemption etc).

But then I started thinking it might be Roslin, because of her dreams of the opera house, which she shares with other cylons possibly because she is a cylon herself. This also ties into the possibility that Roslin is not the dying leader, but that Natalie is. Except that Natalie doesn't have a wasting disease.

So maybe it's Gaeta, because he was spooky. And singing about the hybrid waking up.

Or Starbuck. Leoben even said a couple of episodes ago that because she can hear a song when she nears the ruined basestar, she is "one of us". Although, I did wonder if that would be too blatant.

I also quite fancy Zarek as the final cylon, just because it would be cool.

So, yeah, that's my narrowed-down list. It's definitely Baltar or Roslin. Or Gaeta. Or Starbuck or Zarek. And I'm not certain Apollo and Adama shouldn't be on the list too.

Anyway, awesome episode. Best of the season so far. Two bloody weeks to wait! Crap.

 

[Fast Learner]

I would think Apollo is unlikely, since Adama fathered him.

 

[doubleplusgood]

I would think Apollo is unlikely, since Adama fathered him.

And Adama also fathered Apollo's brother who other people remember. Adama's father was a famous lawyer that other people remember and the Adama family has a prominent history on Caprica.

 

[Villano]

And Adama also fathered Apollo's brother who other people remember. Adama's father was a famous lawyer that other people remember and the Adama family has a prominent history on Caprica.

So did Tigh (his father was a viper pilot and his grandfather was a presidential advisor). Plus, with all the other Cylons we've seen, have you ever seen an old one? Tigh has known Adama 40 yrs, so I assume he's grown visibly older. Plus, he fought in the first Cylon War, before they learned how to make human models. So, if the Final Five predate the original seven, and they age, why aren't Tyrol and the others old?

In other words, there are a lot of factors against Tigh being a Cylon, yet he still is. They've said that the Final Five are a "different type" of Cylon, as such, I'm not sure how can we rule anyone out. For example (Crackpot Theory Alert): What if the Final Five don't have physical bodies? What if they are just programs, and, instead of dying and being reborn in a bio-mechanical body, they are reborn as humans? It's not impossible from what we've seen on the show, and it means that even Apollo could be one.

 

[Volaran]

So did Tigh (his father was a viper pilot and his grandfather was a presidential advisor).

That was only mentioned in a deleted scene from the mini-series. The mini-series deleted scenes also imply that Adama's father also commanded a Battlestar, so cannot always be treated the same as what actually shows up in the episodes. The earliest confirmed sign of Tigh's history is his time with Adama working on a freighter, after the first cylon war.

 

[dravot]

So did Tigh (his father was a viper pilot and his grandfather was a presidential advisor). Plus, with all the other Cylons we've seen, have you ever seen an old one? Tigh has known Adama 40 yrs, so I assume he's grown visibly older. Plus, he fought in the first Cylon War, before they learned how to make human models. So, if the Final Five predate the original seven, and they age, why aren't Tyrol and the others old?

In other words, there are a lot of factors against Tigh being a Cylon, yet he still is. They've said that the Final Five are a "different type" of Cylon, as such, I'm not sure how can we rule anyone out. For example (Crackpot Theory Alert): What if the Final Five don't have physical bodies? What if they are just programs, and, instead of dying and being reborn in a bio-mechanical body, they are reborn as humans? It's not impossible from what we've seen on the show, and it means that even Apollo could be one.

My crackpot idea: the final five are skin jobs from the last time this all happened before.

 

[Mark Hope]

My crackpot idea: the final five are skin jobs from the last time this all happened before.

I think this is quite likely too, and I think that "this all happened before" on Earth. These ancient cylons (and some humans too, either in an alliance or because cylons made them or something) left Earth and came to Kobol. The ancient cylons became the Lord of Kobol, until one rebelled. These ancients also built the Tomb containing images of the constellations as seen from Earth. The 13th tribe then retraced their ancestors' steps back to Earth and the rag-tag fleet is currently following in their footsteps. That's my crackpot theory, anyhow...

 

[The Grumpy Celt]

That's my crackpot theory...

My crackpot theory involves Hollywood writers more or less making it up as they go.

 

[LightPhoenix]

"So which one of them shot Gaeta?" Heh.

An Angeli episode I liked? What the frak?

Not much to add.

My brother mentioned something interesting to me. During 33, the (non-Cylon) people coping best with the lack of sleep are... you guessed it, Tigh and Tyrol. I really want to go back to the episode where Kara rescues Anders and see if he does the same thing.

My crackpot theory is that the Final Five are descendants of the half-Cylons that came before. For whatever reason (genetics, God, gods, whatever) they have just enough Cylon bits.

One thing that bothered me... why would Roslin bring Baltar, but not Caprica, Athena, or Hera? All of them are on Galactica.

(EDIT: Fixed my lousy grammar)

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

So did Tigh (his father was a viper pilot and his grandfather was a presidential advisor). Plus, with all the other Cylons we've seen, have you ever seen an old one?

Brother Cavill.

My crackpot theory involves Hollywood writers more or less making it up as they go.

At least to some extent, this is true, at least to everything I heard. The whole religious angle, or boomer being a sleeper cylon, where not ideas made during the mini-series. This only came as they went along.

I suppose, though, that the writers have a pretty firm grip on these things now. Basically, they started with some random ideas and questions, and let them "evolve" over the course of the series.

Well, so much for crackpot theories.