BattleStar Galactica:Season 3.0--11/10/06--Arc 6

[Storm Raven]

My survival does not trump all circumstances, and the same is true of the survival of my species. From what I've seen, the Cylons are not irredeemably evil, they are simply incredibly immature and confused. You can see their adolescent idiocy work itself out again and again. If I'd judged my daughter's fitness to survive based on some of the crap she pulled in early high school, she'd have been voted off the island ages ago, but today she's an amazing human being who helps the needy and is incredibly loving.

What moral ground do the cylons occupy given that they engaged in the unprovoked murder of billions upon billions of innocent civilians? Your daughter's adolescent idiocy is one thing, adolescent idiocy that depopulates a dozen planets is entirely another. What moral claim to existence do these malfunctioning runaway machines have?

Suppose I killed every member of your family, including your daughter. Now, suppose I said you should "learn to live in peace with me" because I was just an idiot adolescent when I did it. Does that line of logic make any sense?

 

[Joker]

I saw it pretty much the same way, Joker. The virus is a fleet-killer, or perhaps Op-Force killer, but not a genocide device.

It is tough being the smart minority .

 

[DonTadow]

It is tough being the smart minority .

Virus's are living organisms. If there was a virus ala plauge wiping out the human racea nd we had a cure to kill it, would we not hesitate to do it.

Ok what if this virus was evovled, say talked and had feelings, but still was designed for one thing, our eradication. would we not hesitate to do it.

Well that's what the cylons are.

 

[Mallus]

I always thought the point of show was that the Cylons are indistinguishable from humans... and that all sides are diminished, both physically and morally, during war.

 

[Fast Learner]

What moral ground do the cylons occupy given that they engaged in the unprovoked murder of billions upon billions of innocent civilians? Your daughter's adolescent idiocy is one thing, adolescent idiocy that depopulates a dozen planets is entirely another. What moral claim to existence do these malfunctioning runaway machines have?

Their "moral ground" is their existence as sentient beings. Their actions don't obviate their right to exist.

Suppose I killed every member of your family, including your daughter. Now, suppose I said you should "learn to live in peace with me" because I was just an idiot adolescent when I did it. Does that line of logic make any sense?

Absolutely. And I would work very hard on learning to live in peace with you.

 

[Joker]

Virus's are living organisms. If there was a virus ala plauge wiping out the human racea nd we had a cure to kill it, would we not hesitate to do it.

Ok what if this virus was evovled, say talked and had feelings, but still was designed for one thing, our eradication. would we not hesitate to do it.

Well that's what the cylons are.

Why are you telling me this? I don't care about this yeah/nay to genocide discussion.

 

[Arnwyn]

What's all this nonsensical talk about "cylons procreating/breeding" with humans? There's no evidence of that - in fact, all the evidence points out that the Cylons can't breed, and can only manufacture themselves.

Hera has been portrayed as a freak incident - something extremely special and unique. In fact, those 'farms' that the Cylons had set up showed specifically that they were desperate to try to somehow manufacture some sort of procreation function, and so far look to have failed miserably (again, only with Athena being the successful result - and likely nothing more than an accident that the Cyclons clearly can't replicate).

Not only have the writers wasted viewers' time by not bothering to tell us how a Cylon works, but they've gone out of their way to deliberately obfuscate what they are (all in a ham-fisted attempt in trying to get the viewer to ask "what is human?" blah blah blah). And then they want to play the "genocide" card? Sure, whatever.

This episode was a giant flaw in a generally flawed series.

 

[IcyCool]

This episode was a giant flaw in a generally flawed series.

So, how's the fishin'? Anyone bite yet?

 

[Arnwyn]

So, how's the fishin'? Anyone bite yet?

I hope not - I'm hoping people just leave my little side-shots alone... Let the grump mumble to himself!

I think the first part is reasonably legitimate, though.

 

[DonTadow]

Why are you telling me this? I don't care about this yeah/nay to genocide discussion.

sorry accidental quote