Ashrem Bayle
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Is there a web page anyone can point me to that gives synopses of every episode?
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(Buffy) Concerning Buffy, the Vampire Slayer
- Thread starter Edena_of_Neith
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KnowTheToe
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Tsyr said:
Thank God, I am not alone!
www.buffyguide.com is great, except that they're a bit over a year behind (I think they're only up to 5.18 or so).Ashrem Bayle said:
ToddSchumacher
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Green Knight
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Here's another good one which I frequently check.
http://www.sunnydale-slayers.com/
Anyway, someone said that Buffy's the Slayer that's lasted the longest (I have the Buffy RPG book but didn't read that, but I think it's safe to say that that's wrong). Gotta disagree with that. In the re-run they showed earlier today on F/X, she said that Slayers don't last past the age of 25. So there have been Slayers that've lasted longer than she has. They're probably rare exceptions, as most Slayers seem to have a 5 year life span, but they exist.
As for the test, remember, all Slayers go through it when they're 18. Just because Kendra and Faith never went through it doesn't mean they weren't considered "The Slayer". They didn't go through it because they never turned 18. Kendra died before then and Faith was either in a coma, on the run, or warming a jail cell when she turned 18.
The Slayer line has since passed to Kendra and then to Faith, but that doesn't make her any less of the Slayer. Just not many instances of Slayers coming back to life after they died (Not many = Only one instance).
As for how Buffy handled resurrection, as someone else said, she was depressed for most of the season. She was in Heaven and they yanked her out of there (They had assumed she had gone to Hell). And in comparison to Heaven, Earth IS Hell. At least that's how it feels to Buffy, anyway. Her friends dragged her down into a hellish place. Having to claw your way out of your grave to find your hometown in flames with demons running rampant sure can't have helped (Must've felt to her like she HAD gone to some hell dimension, and not seemed as if she was in the real world at first).
http://www.sunnydale-slayers.com/
Anyway, someone said that Buffy's the Slayer that's lasted the longest (I have the Buffy RPG book but didn't read that, but I think it's safe to say that that's wrong). Gotta disagree with that. In the re-run they showed earlier today on F/X, she said that Slayers don't last past the age of 25. So there have been Slayers that've lasted longer than she has. They're probably rare exceptions, as most Slayers seem to have a 5 year life span, but they exist.
As for the test, remember, all Slayers go through it when they're 18. Just because Kendra and Faith never went through it doesn't mean they weren't considered "The Slayer". They didn't go through it because they never turned 18. Kendra died before then and Faith was either in a coma, on the run, or warming a jail cell when she turned 18.
The Slayer line has since passed to Kendra and then to Faith, but that doesn't make her any less of the Slayer. Just not many instances of Slayers coming back to life after they died (Not many = Only one instance).
As for how Buffy handled resurrection, as someone else said, she was depressed for most of the season. She was in Heaven and they yanked her out of there (They had assumed she had gone to Hell). And in comparison to Heaven, Earth IS Hell. At least that's how it feels to Buffy, anyway. Her friends dragged her down into a hellish place. Having to claw your way out of your grave to find your hometown in flames with demons running rampant sure can't have helped (Must've felt to her like she HAD gone to some hell dimension, and not seemed as if she was in the real world at first).
Edena_of_Neith
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What was this Test like, that this Council put Buffy through, at the age of 18?
What did they require of her?
What were the parameters for success and failure?
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And ((irritated look)) by what right does this Council deem itself fit to give a test to the Slayer, when the Slayer is (apparently) divinely chosen?
If this Test has - and all tests do - parameters for passing and failing - then by what arrogance has the Council decided what means a candidate passes or a candidate fails?
It would seem to me that the Slayer is the one who chooses, who is to live, and who is to die - in effect, who has passed and who has failed.
Or, if applicable, the Slayer passes no judgement at all.
What did they require of her?
What were the parameters for success and failure?
- - -
And ((irritated look)) by what right does this Council deem itself fit to give a test to the Slayer, when the Slayer is (apparently) divinely chosen?
If this Test has - and all tests do - parameters for passing and failing - then by what arrogance has the Council decided what means a candidate passes or a candidate fails?
It would seem to me that the Slayer is the one who chooses, who is to live, and who is to die - in effect, who has passed and who has failed.
Or, if applicable, the Slayer passes no judgement at all.
Crothian
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Edena_of_Neith said:
They took away her Slayer abilities and expected her to slay a vampire. Success meant she would still be the slayer, failure meant she would die.
The council is the group that trains the slayer, they have the knowledge of what is going on. They have as much right to do it as you do of passing judgement on them when you've seen so little of the show.
ToddSchumacher
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Edena_of_Neith said:
When Buffy was 18 the councel (and Giles in his capasity as her Watcher) Gave buffy a serum that decreased her agility and strength to that of a normal girl, without telling her and then were going to lock her in a sealed house with a vamp (not just a normal vamp but a sadistic serial killer turned vamp) but the test went arwry the vamp got free and kidnapped Buffy's mom, and in the end She did kill the vamp using her wits and courage. Of course Giles got fired because after the vamp got away he told her about the test (Which he viewed as archaic and barbaric, but went along because well he was a Watcher)
Surviving the test is passing it.
And yes the council are a bunch of arrogent SoBs. Which makes us love to hate them. Officialy when Buffy graduated High School she quit the council and no longer follow their orders. There was an episode in season 5 where the counsil returns for more tests (in exchange for some needed info on the Big Bad), but in the end Buffy really put them in thier place, pretty much stating what you said, I'm the slayer, your the watchers, I save the world, you need me..ect. It was pretty cool.
I'm really looking forward to this coming season...we may see more of the origins of the slayer and the coucil's roll in all of it.
Tsyr
Explorer
The Council is a group that tries to make sure Slayers are the best that they can be, in a way. If a slayer fails the test... oh well, a new and maybe better slayer is born. They know it's cold hearted and all... in fact, Giles is critzied for getting to know his Slayer for that very reason... it put him at odds with his duties.
The Council basicly uses the Slayer as a tool to serve the interests of mankind, as they see it. You will note that, with the exception of Giles, most Watchers act more or less on a purely proffesional level with slayers... never doing anything to encourage friendship.
I would hesitate to call the slayer divinely chosen though. It's always been left a bit vauge exactly who or what is behind the slayers.
The Council basicly uses the Slayer as a tool to serve the interests of mankind, as they see it. You will note that, with the exception of Giles, most Watchers act more or less on a purely proffesional level with slayers... never doing anything to encourage friendship.
I would hesitate to call the slayer divinely chosen though. It's always been left a bit vauge exactly who or what is behind the slayers.
