Chainmail Bikinis & other Cheesecake art in the 4th Edition Core Books.

[TerraDave]

mmm....








...pi

 

[Geoff Watson]

I voted "Slightly Oppose".

I don't find that kind of art objectionable in any absolute sense, and I don't mind its existence, but at the same time, it can get rather annoying.

I don't know, I guess I prefer girls in art to be "cute" or "beautiful" rather than "half-naked and screaming". A character can easily be cute or beautiful while fully clothed, but I think it actually gets harder to pull off when the character is wearing scanty clothing. Also, it seems that too often in D&D, they too often make a female character half-naked without putting in the effort to make her attractive.

I guess I oppose cheesecake art, but for reasons completely different than the stereotypical reasons.

I agree with Twin Bahamut.

It's better to have attractive women sensibly dressed with action poses than sluttily dressed with pornographic poses. With the later, the artist often concentrates on the boobs/butt and does a lousy job of the face (which is the most important part).

Geoff.

 

[Pulsecrawler_79]

I don't really care either way. And honestly I doubt they really care all that much either. If a scantily clad elf girl casting a spell gets some guy to try out a 40$ book then they win. But in my opinion if your selling sex in an rpg then at least sell to both sexes. I for one won't be too put off by a book if there is a scantily clad eladrin guy polishing his sword.
That sounds dirty...

 

[ZombieRoboNinja]

Thread necromancy always makes me feel a bit dirty, but I just noticed this:

http://wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4ask/20080121a

Aside from their questionable responses to the actual question, Chris Perkins (in the second video) says that he feels like they've already done a good job of getting rid of chainmail bikinis, as a move towards attracting/retaining female gamers. So it is at least on their radar.

 

[Terramotus]

I'm also a big proponent of practical dungeon-delving attire in D&D.

I missed this thread the first time around, but I've gotta ask... where does this picture come from and who is the artist? It's awesome.

Oh, and by the way, I think Klaus's druid needs to be cut some slack. Let's look at the evidence. First, she's obviously using Greenbound Summoning. Secondly, she's using a wooden version of armor, something decidedly non-core, in an attempt to squeak out more AC. I'm sure it's got the wilding enchantment and that the rest of her gear is wilding clasped out.

Bottom line, this is a chick who's looking to get the maximum mechanical benefit that she can. We can assume that within her game world her armor is quite effective. It's probably missing the pieces that it is so she can get away with a higher max dex bonus and lesser armor check penalty. Someone who takes Greenbound Summoning is NOT going to let looking good get in her way of kicking butt.

 

[Moon-Lancer]

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sorry everyone for the shameless plug.

wanna share some of that thunder Klaus? ;p

 

[Klaus]

Heh.

While not related to cheesecaking, I've collected my 4e Art Ramblings in this thread over at Circvs Maximvs: http://www.circvsmaximvs.com/showthread.php?t=37904

 

[Steely Dan]

It's hard to go wrong with Clyde Caldwell.

Really, I thought he was one of the worst 1st/2d Ed artists – too many revolting jewels slathered all over everything; and overtly prurient (in a sophomoric way).

Bring back Brom and Easly!

 

[Derren]

Somebody should have told the ancient Celts that before they went into battle NAKED and covered with body paint.

It was a technique to undermine an enemy's fighting effectiveness by shock and distraction. Much like the constantly moving red tassel on a Chinese sword.

And how many of those ancient celts ended up dead compared to those ancient celts which fought in armor?

 

[Steely Dan]

Ah and what a lovey mixed-race brazilian she is. Is ti just me or a lot of Brazilian women gorgeous?

They are (best asses in the world) – they also make the best trannies/she-males around.