D&D Movie/TV D&D Movie Hit or Flop?

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

last 5 years or so, a movie getting 100% reviews from industry critics correlates to very poor performance with average viewer.

Not true. (Side note: You are allowed to like "bad stuff" and it's not a personal attack on you if something you love is rated poorly by the critics, who tend to see hundreds of movies a year and are a lot less forgiving than you or I would be of a film's flaws.)

Most movies never get a wide release, which fills up the charts with a lot of "what is this stuff," but that's true for any point in the scale.

Just looking at what's in theaters now or relatively recently (including re-releases), the stuff with the top scores include the following:

• Banshees of Inisherin, 96%, short list for Best Picture Oscar
• Puss in Boots: The Last Wish, 95% with critics, 94% with audiences, a big hit with my family
• MEGAN, 93% with critics, 78% with audiences, a big hit in theaters
• RRR, 95% with critics, 94% with audiences, a massive worldwide hit, probably the most popular international action movie since Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (which has gotten a rerelease and has a 98% with critics, 86% with audiences)

Anecdotally, my wife and I have used the Tomatometer to twice pick movies with 100% scores out to watch. Both Ex Machina and What We Do in the Shadows are among the best movies I've ever seen and my wife and I laughed so hard and so constantly during What We Do in the Shadows, our kids came to check on us, worried we were having some sort of fit. (Ex Machina has since dropped to 92%, but was 100% when it first came to home video, and What We Do in the Shadows has dropped to a 96%.)

 

[Parmandur]

Wings of Time, one of the D&D songs from Honor Among Thieves.

Thoughts?

Groovy, I like it.

 

[Parmandur]

Not true. (Side note: You are allowed to like "bad stuff" and it's not a personal attack on you if something you love is rated poorly by the critics, who tend to see hundreds of movies a year and are a lot less forgiving than you or I would be of a film's flaws.)

Most movies never get a wide release, which fills up the charts with a lot of "what is this stuff," but that's true for any point in the scale.

Just looking at what's in theaters now or relatively recently (including re-releases), the stuff with the top scores include the following:

• Banshees of Inisherin, 96%, short list for Best Picture Oscar
• Puss in Boots: The Last Wish, 95% with critics, 94% with audiences, a big hit with my family
• MEGAN, 93% with critics, 78% with audiences, a big hit in theaters
• RRR, 95% with critics, 94% with audiences, a massive worldwide hit, probably the most popular international action movie since Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (which has gotten a rerelease and has a 98% with critics, 86% with audiences)

Anecdotally, my wife and I have used the Tomatometer to twice pick movies with 100% scores out to watch. Both Ex Machina and What We Do in the Shadows are among the best movies I've ever seen and my wife and I laughed so hard and so constantly during What We Do in the Shadows, our kids came to check on us, worried we were having some sort of fit. (Ex Machina has since dropped to 92%, but was 100% when it first came to home video, and has dropped to a 96%.)

Indeed, it's the opposite of true: there is a strict correlation between positive reviews and increased box office numbers, all else being equal.

 

[Zardnaar]

Indeed, it's the opposite of true: there is a strict correlation between positive reviews and increased box office numbers, all else being equal.

Not guaranteed though. Plenty of critical darlings flop.

It's not a negative in any way even if it flops. Might stop a movie flopping harder.

 

[Parmandur]

Not guaranteed though. Plenty of critical darlings flop.

It's not a negative in any way even if it flops. Might stop a movie flopping harder.

Plenty of critical darlings donate Avatar money. Doesn't mean they flop, if they release low budget. Key part of my statement was "all else being equal", which means that indie French history dramas the are well reviewed make more money than indie French history dramas that are critically panned, and big action films that receiv
E good critical reviewsmake more than those that don't

That's why studios care about critical reception: it means money.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

Real men laugh at personal growth!

Because you can't grow if you start on top...

 

[Ogre Mage]

The movie will be a hit.

 

[M_Natas]

Just saw it at a preview in Germany. It was the 11pm showing in original language and 3/4 full. It was the only original language showing in Berlin this week, so I thought it would be packed, even at this time.
The movie was pretty great, so.

 

[bloodtide]

I.....I....saw the Movie!

It's what I feared: fast and loose with anything D&D related and basically just a Phase Four Marvel movie type. And had way, way, way, way too much juvenile slapstick 'action'. I had to stop counting the times some character with a weapon stopped attacking with it to punch their opponent.

But, it was at least average. If you liked Quantumainia or The Eternals or Shazam, you will like this movie.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

I had to stop counting the times some character with a weapon stopped attacking with it to punch their opponent.

Because taking turns to swing a sword at each other is more realistic?

Punching, and generally using your whole body, is part of real world fighting, it's D&D's hack hack hack that is unrealistic (as well as boring).

 

[Blackwarder]

It’s going to be another woke flop like the MCU phase 4. It will have a good first weekend and than it’s going to flop harder than Antmen: quantomenia.
Shame really, they’re had The best chance to launch a franchise and they ruined it for some personal idiotic agendas.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

It’s going to be another woke flop like the MCU phase 4. It will have a good first weekend and than it’s going to flop harder than Antmen: quantomenia.
Shame really, they’re had The best chance to launch a franchise and they ruined it for some personal idiotic agendas.

Yeah. Dumb movie.
Was so full of agenda.
Right in the first scene. How dare the man not stand up for his woman and protect her. I mean... how can just sit there and do women things, while she fights for herself...

... also no one laughed in any scene...

Edit: to make it clear... no. The movie was not obviously pushing any agenda. It was just not playing to old tropes...

 

[UngeheuerLich]

I.....I....saw the Movie!

It's what I feared: fast and loose with anything D&D related

Oh. Then I did see the wrong movie...
in the one I saw the nods to the actual rules were very very obvious and quite correctly depicted...

It is also worth mentioning that not any random D&D rules were referenced, but 5e rules specifically.

 

[Morrus]

It’s going to be another woke flop like the MCU phase 4. It will have a good first weekend and than it’s going to flop harder than Antmen: quantomenia.
Shame really, they’re had The best chance to launch a franchise and they ruined it for some personal idiotic agendas.

Ooops. Careless. Check out the rules, and in the meantime you can leave this thread.

 

[Zardnaar]

If it flops don't think blaming woke matters. More likely simpler explanation. It's a D&D movie released in March starring
Chris Pine.

Outside of D&D circles not a huge amount of buzz it seems we'll see. The opening weekend figures might be inflated from early screenings idk if that approach is good or bad. Might inflate the opening weekend results but less bums on seats as the most dynamic fans have already seen it.

I can't really call it as I'm not confident in any of my predictions aka I don't know. It's not screaming out flop or massive hit so Idk.

 

[bedir than]

Audience reviews are back up at Rotten Tomatoes - 93%. Critics score is at 89%, just four reviews away from being "Certified Fresh"

 

[Azzy]

It’s going to be another woke flop like the MCU phase 4. It will have a good first weekend and than it’s going to flop harder than Antmen: quantomenia.
Shame really, they’re had The best chance to launch a franchise and they ruined it for some personal idiotic agendas.

Today In "Woke Means Anything That I Don't Like™".

 

[AdmundfortGeographer]

If it flops don't think blaming woke matters. More likely simpler explanation. It's a D&D movie released in March starring
Chris Pine.

It’ll be released released one week after John Wick: Chapter 4, which could carry strong into the D&D movie release weekend.

I wondered if that is one reason for so many pre-release screenings.

 

[humble minion]

Outside of D&D circles not a huge amount of buzz it seems we'll see

I think a fair few people will see it just because it's a big light action comedy being released in (here in Australia at least) school holidays, and it's something for the kids to do. That's a market that John Wick is not in competition for. On the Other Forum i frequent (completely non-RPG related), one guy went because he had an Amazon advance screening ticket, and really enjoyed it, and another is going with a bunch of friends who are D&D players even though he's not himself. There might be a surprisingly solid word of mouth factor on this one.

 

[Zardnaar]

It’ll be released released one week after John Wick: Chapter 4, which could carry strong into the D&D movie release weekend.

I wondered if that is one reason for so many pre-release screenings.

Are they including prerelease screenings in opening weekend figures?