Enterprise 10-29-04

[John Crichton]

And while I'm not a wrestling fan by any stretch, I really enjoyed the appearance of "Big Show" as the Orion lifting up T'Pol in the slave arena. His size and bulk were perfect for a 7' tall Orion male.

Johnathan

Yes, and him waving her about like a rag-doll was great. I wonder how many takes that took for Blalock not to freak out, grimace or grin during that sequence...

 

[Cthulhudrew]

About the enhanced humans part, it seems very familiar in the Trek universe. I was thinking about Khan and his group, from the orginal series, every time I saw them. I'm thinking that the two groups are linked somehow. I can't wait to see how it plays out

They are related- as another poster mentioned, Soong's "children" are the legacy of genetic experiments that led to the Eugenics Wars of the late 20th century (of which Khan is a direct result).

 

[Cthulhudrew]

First off: I knew that I would like Spiner's character. He always plays an excellent villain. Lore was (behind Q) the best Next Gen adversary. No surprises here.

I really liked the fact that the Soong family seems to have a legacy for wanting to create new/artificial forms of life. First with this Soong, and his experiments with genetic engineering- then with Noonian Soong and Data/Lore/Whatever-his-name-was from the recent movie... even with Lore and Data, who experimented with other artificial forms of life.

It also puts an interesting spin on Starfleet's interest in Data, in particular the episode where they wanted Data re-classified as an artificial life form so they could take him under their direct control. Given Starfleet's history with Soong, it's no wonder they considered Data a bit of a security risk...

 

[Tiberius]

I thought this a pretty good ep. Few problems here and there (like phasers at warp, which is IIRC a VERY bad idea), but overall I liked it and the way the show is going.

On another note, one of the supermen who first came aboard the Klingon ship was played, seemingly, by the same guy who played Paul Atreides in SciFi's two Dune miniseries. I kept expecting the other Augments to spontaneously burst into a chant of "Muad'dib" when he entered the room.

 

[Orius]

About the enhanced humans part, it seems very familiar in the Trek universe. I was thinking about Khan and his group, from the orginal series, every time I saw them. I'm thinking that the two groups are linked somehow. I can't wait to see how it plays out

That stands to reason. These Augments are supposed to be leftover embryos from the Eugenics Wars that have been locked away for decades.

As for the Orion part of the show, I wasn't happy with most of it. I thought that it was just filler. I did think it was funny how Archer caught Soong

Yeah, kind of filler, but it's filler there for the classic Trek fans. And I enjoyed it.

 

[Orius]

The nod to the previous episode without being whacked over the head with it (T'pol/Trip). The reboot scene of Enterprise leaving spacedock. They were basically saying: Okay we are taking off again and this time things are going to be different (not to mention a new captain's chair and annointing of the XO). The Orions in general. Soong's basic knowledge of current and past events and specifically his interactions with Archer. Phlox's increasing fame in the scientific field.

I agree mosty, though leaving spacedock was kind of dull to me. Maybe because they've done it so many times in the past that it doesn't seem at all special any more.

And you know something? It felt like Trek for the first time in a while.

I agree. Watching this episode, you knew that you were watching Star Trek. It was like classic Trek with some great DS9 flavor mixed together to make a great episode.

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[Orius]

If Trek is going down this year....let be...the finale and best hours of TV showing...ever.

I think that's what Coto is doing; either he's pulling out some great stuff here to save the show, and if it's not enough, at least the show will go out with a bang, instead of fading away while the fans don't care.

 

[Orius]

I really liked the fact that the Soong family seems to have a legacy for wanting to create new/artificial forms of life.

The term I'd use is crackpot genius scientists.

 

[John Crichton]

I thought this a pretty good ep. Few problems here and there (like phasers at warp, which is IIRC a VERY bad idea), but overall I liked it and the way the show is going.

Not to geek out here but...

I'm fairly positive that over the course of Trek that they use phasers all the time at warp.

 

[John Crichton]

I really liked the fact that the Soong family seems to have a legacy for wanting to create new/artificial forms of life. First with this Soong, and his experiments with genetic engineering- then with Noonian Soong and Data/Lore/Whatever-his-name-was from the recent movie... even with Lore and Data, who experimented with other artificial forms of life.

It also puts an interesting spin on Starfleet's interest in Data, in particular the episode where they wanted Data re-classified as an artificial life form so they could take him under their direct control. Given Starfleet's history with Soong, it's no wonder they considered Data a bit of a security risk...

Excellent points. Coto seems to channelling Trek lore and themes along with acknowledging classic characters. I'm pleasantly surprised.

The director of this ep also did a very good job. I think that is overlooked with TV shows in general. With so many shows being shot in widescreen it is becoming more and more important to have someone who can pull off the writer's story and make it feel cinematic rather than just tell the story.