Paul Farquhar
Legend
I tend not to read "serious" SF now. I went through that phase 35 years ago.
Foundation Series (Apple+)
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Zardnaar
Legend
Never hit that phase I suppose. I've read some eg Dune but no Aasimov, Niven, Arthur C Clarke.
Prefer reading fantasy vs watching it and other way around with Sci Fi.
Paul Farquhar
Legend
Apart from the stuff on Terminus, which looks like it was shot in Doctor Who's gravel pit.
Zardnaar
Legend
Yeah it's not that exciting.
practicalm
Explorer
I haven't seen episode 6, but episode 5 was a big meh from me.
Nothing new was conveyed. Seemed like a lot of filler.
Even Gaal's backstory didn't really give us new things to work with.
Nothing new was conveyed. Seemed like a lot of filler.
Even Gaal's backstory didn't really give us new things to work with.
Paul Farquhar
Legend
Truth.
Paul Farquhar
Legend
Dungeon crawl in space!
pukunui
Legend
I think if I were to make a series based on Foundation, I'd go for a two-parter that focuses on the second half of the trilogy (so the Mule's story and the hunt for the Second Foundation). I'd sprinkle the first half of the story, that spans the biggest length of time, in as backstory.
Both the Mule's story and the hunt for the Second Foundation span shorter periods of time, maintain their respective casts of characters, and have a more typical narrative structure. I think they would lend themselves to film / tv better.
You could have a brief expository "history of the Foundation" bit at the beginning that covers the main points of Hari Seldon --> Terminus --> Encyclopedists --> Mayors --> Traders --> etc etc and maybe go into a bit more detail throughout the series as needed -- and/or include short vignette films / stories on a tie-in website or something.
Both the Mule's story and the hunt for the Second Foundation span shorter periods of time, maintain their respective casts of characters, and have a more typical narrative structure. I think they would lend themselves to film / tv better.
You could have a brief expository "history of the Foundation" bit at the beginning that covers the main points of Hari Seldon --> Terminus --> Encyclopedists --> Mayors --> Traders --> etc etc and maybe go into a bit more detail throughout the series as needed -- and/or include short vignette films / stories on a tie-in website or something.
MarkB
Legend
That would work better structurally, but what works well in the Mule story is the peoples' sense of shock as Seldon's scheduled Crisis message turns out to have nothing to do with the crisis they're actually facing. That doesn't work as well if you haven't already established the premise.
pukunui
Legend
I think it would be easy enough to have an intro that establishes the 200+ year history of the Foundation and how it has relied heavily on Hari Seldon's Plan. It could touch on the encyclopedists giving way to the mayors who give way to the free traders and so on. For one thing, since the original stories were magazine serials, each of them starts with a summary of the preceding stories anyway, usually in the form of expository dialogue or something like Arkady's dictated "history of the Foundation" essay.
It would be similar to how the Lord of the Rings movie trilogy begins with a short intro showing how Sauron was defeated and his ring taken and then lost, and how the Hobbit movie trilogy begins with a short intro that shows Smaug arriving at Erebor and such.
MarkB
Legend
Sure, that works in terms of establishing events, but it's not emotionally effective if you're not already invested in the setting's established premise.
Paul Farquhar
Legend
I haven't seen today's episode yet, but I'm pretty sure the Second Foundation has already been mentioned on the show, way ahead of schedule.
Echohawk
Shirokinukatsukami fan
It was implied in a line of Seldon's dialogue from last week's episode, when he says to Gaal "you're supposed to lead the first Foundation".
It's also implied by Gaal (and Salvors) psychic abilities.
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