D&D 5E (2024) Have the 2024 PHB Reveals changed your intentions re: purchasing D&D 2024/25?

[FrogReaver]

The book that could persuade me to try 2024 is the new Monster Manual... but the previews so far are showing me something less appealing than 2014's.

Can you elaborate?

 

[JEB]

Can you elaborate?

Partly repeating myself from the kuo-toa thread:

• Lore is less interesting to read than 2014, with fewer implied adventure and world-building ideas.
• The slightly more condensed, slightly less "natural language" statblock is also slightly harder for me to parse (especially the reactions). I had actually expected more structure to improve readability, so that was a surprise.

There are also weird inconsistencies between descriptions and the statblocks, and between wording in different statblocks, but I expect that to be ironed out before release.

To be clear, the 2024 MM isn't unappealing, and there are a few new things I'm seeing that I like (like the random tables). However, I need something overall as good, if not better, than 2014's, and it's not meeting that bar so far. (But it isn't giving me a "yuck" response like the 4e Monster Manual did, FWIW.)

 

[Neonchameleon]

I had player play Oath of the Crown paladin for RP reasons. Half way through the campaign they were betrayed and changed to Oath of Vengeance.

This is the sort of arc I'd expect to see out of Oath of the Crown. (I'm very much a proponent of Paladins changing subclasses as a result of character development)

 

[UngeheuerLich]

Not to tangent to hard, but I thought i read in a review thread that escaping a grapple WAS a saving throw now.

Nope. It is a saving throw to resist being grappled.
And an ability check and an action to get out.
Both are not affected by that ability.
So it functionally does nothing.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Partly repeating myself from the kuo-toa thread:

• Lore is less interesting to read than 2014, with fewer implied adventure and world-building ideas.
• The slightly more condensed, slightly less "natural language" statblock is also slightly harder for me to parse (especially the reactions). I had actually expected more structure to improve readability, so that was a surprise.

There are also weird inconsistencies between descriptions and the statblocks, and between wording in different statblocks, but I expect that to be ironed out before release.

To be clear, the 2024 MM isn't unappealing, and there are a few new things I'm seeing that I like (like the random tables). However, I need something overall as good, if not better, than 2014's, and it's not meeting that bar so far. (But it isn't giving me a "yuck" response like the 4e Monster Manual did, FWIW.)

It doesn't look better than the Level Up Monstrous Menagerie, so I don't see the point personally.

 

[tetrasodium]

So far, it doesn't look like these "2024 Revealed!" threads have changed very many minds. Which makes sense; I don't think that was ever anyone's goal.

Notable problem with the poll.... There are no options to indicate that you were undecided or on the fence and now that has changed. Anyone who was not firmly decided one way or the other needs to either skip this poll or retcon a firm decision into their past "hmm....".

 

[Reynard]

Notable problem with the poll.... There are no options to indicate that you were undecided or on the fence and now that has changed. Anyone who was not firmly decided one way or the other needs to either skip this poll or retcon a firm decision into their past "hmm....".

True. I doubt it would matter much, though. The PHB reveals do not appear to be having much impact other than getting people to,yet again, argue incessantly about Stealth.

 

[mamba]

It doesn't look better than the Level Up Monstrous Menagerie, so I don't see the point personally.

would be interesting to see how many monsters each has / what is unique to either. I am not limiting myself to one MM either way, I like having options

 

[mamba]

True. I doubt it would matter much, though. The PHB reveals do not appear to be having much impact

among the people that already were decided

 

[Micah Sweet]

would be interesting to see how many monsters each has / what is unique to either. I am not limiting myself to one MM either way, I like having options

The 2014 MM and @Nixlord 's Expanded series covers anything Level Up isn't legally allowed to publish well enough.