Loki Season 2 Discussion - Spoilers

[Stalker0]

HWR corpse looked pretty decayed

Considering the corpse is literally at the end of time, not sure why its even decaying in the first place.

 

[Tonguez]

Considering the corpse is literally at the end of time, not sure why its even decaying in the first place.

Yeah I thought that was weird too
My suspicious mind tells me that maybe its telling us that although the death was A “end of time” it wad not “The End of Time” and that Kang has something else planned ‘next’

But Im never sure if the MCU is playing by the same logic...

 

[Parmandur]

I have no idea what is happening in the show anymore. Like, there's a threat to the TVA because too many alternate timelines? Except I thought there were already endless timelines because What If? But they were snipping timelines, so the people who got squished were mass murderers beyond comprehension, but maybe I was supposed to feel bad for them at some level? And I'm not sure why I care what happens to the TVA anyway? And why does Loki seem to act more or less like Steve Rogers this season? And why are Loki and Sylvie treated more or less like regular people when they don't have their magic even though they are Asgardians/Frost Giants and almost as powerful as Thor even without magic?

The back half of this episode.made it.pretty clear that literay.anythkng I thought was going on of.impkrtance was purely a Red Herring. Kind of delighted to be taken in so throughly, wonder.if they can stick the landing after that.

 

[Hussar]

Considering the corpse is literally at the end of time, not sure why its even decaying in the first place.

There is a danger in taking names too literally of course. Since events actually happen "at the end of time" then obviously time is still passing. Otherwise, the show would be very short with everything just ending at that point. I image that "at the end of time" is probably not an exact, scientific description.

 

[Zaukrie]

We are really enjoying that we have no idea what will happen next. So unusual these days. And the acting is quite good. And the writing. Just really liking this show a lot.

and, ya, HWR is now spread in every timeline, I'd guess....or something like that. But, they surprise me over and over, so who knows? And no, I don't watch any previews.....

 

[trappedslider]

yeah, theres definitely something sinister about Victor Timely too

 

[briggart]

What if Timely’s death had a part of HWR’s plan? He was awfully quick to volunteer to go outside. Despite not really being brave before. And Timely was hand picked by HWR’s. What if Sylvie was right all along and this was all just a way for HWR’s to come back?

My pet theory is that the Aura scan machine actually overwrote Timely's mind with HWR's mind and his spaghettification was part of his plan all along.

 

[Ryujin]

Considering the corpse is literally at the end of time, not sure why its even decaying in the first place.

But is it decaying, in the biological sense, or is it coming apart, in the matter is ending sense?

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

End of time or a place without time are pretty much meaningless things for humans, because we require the passing of time. The end of time would be place of maximum entropy, a humanoid corpse isn't going to decay there, because it would have already decayed, and then all its constitutent atoms would have decayed, and then any constitutent protons and neutrons, and it likely would have fallen into a black hole by then (even if it takes gazillion of years). So if there are people there, it's not the end of time. And if we could somehow send people to a "time" where the time ends, the time would no longer end then and instead pass until the aforementiond has happened and nothing was left. But I suppose it could be that the place Who Remains stayed us would have been the end of time if he hadn't somehow time-travelled there, or something.
And the TVA might not be part of any other timelines and a pocket universe, but it clearly has a passing of time inside it. Maybe there are some cheats in it, that maybe it can violate the 2nd law of thermodynamics and basically resets to a lower entropy state or something?

In the end, this is really the fiction and not the science stuff. It does whatever the writers want it to do.

Though if I had to guess what the writers want it do:
Timely's Spaghettification is not his death, but actually a Time Slip, and he slips back in a past where he can teach Ouroborus about the TVA technology, with the handbook that OB has written and was given to him. It's a time loop.
And the catastrophe will be barely averted because Timely has already prepared something to fix the loom and it will activate at the last second or something. (Maybe still requiring some heroic efforts to actually work).

 

[nevin]

making it way too complicated. the sacred timeline was what was left after "He who remains" finished saving his corner of the universe.

when the sacred timeline (an amalgam of the time lines worth saving, or necessary to hold the whole thing together) go boom everything should go back to what it was before or close to what it was before because we are now in a loop and have no idea how many times he's done this, and every loop will be slightly different. I think they are expecting the audience to be super time savvy and understand that even though they just wiped out an uncountable number of universes, they just blew up the loop and they'll all exist again eventually.

I think Loki would have done better ratings wise if they'd just up front explained what the loom was how it worked and what the effect of it ceasing to exist was going to be. It's probably good for forums they didn't but it just made a muddied mess for the average viewer.

My guess on the loom is that certain people including He who remains had multiple them's loomed together to create beings capable of holding it all together. (Being multiple beings loomed together is probably why he who remains was so powerful ) Most of them being in the TVA, which was then filled with variants that popped up after the sacred timeline was created.