OOC Discussion for A Kingdom of Ashes (The Battle of the Alder's Forest, and Beyond)

[Laurel]

I've seen this mentioned several times. I see a problem.

No one is sure there *is* a basement to the Library. If there is, you certainly haven't found one. The mages appear to have been looking for books, not secret doors - so Selura didn't have them looking for that, either. As such, telling them that you're going to take anyone to a basement that as far as everyone knows does not exist seems a little weak.

On top of convincing them, I don't know if *you* know that there's a basement. You just suspect that there is.

yes we do not know, but we have a very good assumption that the blade is in the library. We also know Selura had them looking through the books- not a likely place for a blade to be. So she was searching for other clues within the library.

There is no guarantee, but working our way down from upstairs seems odd, and the blade is not someplace out in the open so starting from a bottom floor seems logical. She doesn't have to say basement -since it may not exsist- she doesn't have to state anywhere in specific just say she is taking them away for further questioning. If they ask she say to the bottom floor so the posible screams don't interrupt thier work.

 

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

Yet, the prison plan calls for the same bluffing and playing of parts... so if lying is the issue we shouldn't be going with any of the above plans.

So long as our bluffs are good-- we should be fine. We have glibness, eagle's splendor, and the benefit having Sulora's body working on our behalf.

 

[The_Universe]

DM, any idea when we'll know what sort of treasure we pulled in after the battle?

Yes. As soon as you return to Hyrwl for a period of time long enough to gather and collect it, the treasure is yours.

 

[Xath]

FYI:

As far as I know, noone in the party can "cast" Gate. In order to use that spell, we'll need a scroll.

Also, keep in mind that the ring of spell storing can hold 1 3rd level spell, or a combination of lower level spells.

 

[The_Universe]

It seems that noone wants the long term prison. I'll save the map for something else.

That's not true. I think it's just too expensive for now. Wait a bit, and if the smaller version of the plan works, you might be able to make something along what you're thinking in the future.

 

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

FYI:

As far as I know, noone in the party can "cast" Gate. In order to use that spell, we'll need a scroll.

Also, keep in mind that the ring of spell storing can hold 1 3rd level spell, or a combination of lower level spells.

Yep--

So, like I said, we'll either need Randall, Cawys, a scroll, or the ring of spell storing for that particular hurdle.

 

[Laurel]

So long as our bluffs are good-- we should be fine. We have glibness, eagle's splendor, and the benefit having Sulora's body working on our behalf.

-I was just pointing out both require bluffing, and staying together-

Bluff for the Prison- So we just have Selura command everyone to gather in one place so they can leave as a group?

 

[The_Universe]

yes we do not know, but we have a very good assumption that the blade is in the library. We also know Selura had them looking through the books- not a likely place for a blade to be. So she was searching for other clues within the library.

There is no guarantee, but working our way down from upstairs seems odd, and the blade is not someplace out in the open so starting from a bottom floor seems logical. She doesn't have to say basement -since it may not exsist- she doesn't have to state anywhere in specific just say she is taking them away for further questioning. If they ask she say to the bottom floor so the posible screams don't interrupt thier work.

I'm with you. I was just reminding you to seperate what the player suspects from what the characters know.

Furthermore, it might seem a little awkward for Selura to tell them that they're heading to the basement, and then stumble around the library looking for the basement, itself....

 

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

-I was just pointing out both require bluffing, and staying together-

Bluff for the Prison- So we just have Selura command everyone to gather in one place so they can leave as a group?

Yep-- it will require the prophecy... or least something similar...

So that they have a good reason to be returning home.

 

[The_Universe]

FYI:

As far as I know, noone in the party can "cast" Gate. In order to use that spell, we'll need a scroll.

Also, keep in mind that the ring of spell storing can hold 1 3rd level spell, or a combination of lower level spells.

OK - the ring you currently have won't work. So, a scroll it is, unless there's something else someone can come up with.