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Getting BACK to Picard (remember the show this thread is about?)

I remember a discussion I had some years ago about Marvel movies changing characters and the comment that stuck with me was that characters should only be changed - to poc’s or sexuality or gender - if that change is justified by the story. So you can only have a white Peter Parker unless you completely rewrite the whole character and back story and get Milo Morales.
And it always stuck with me, that comment. Because it completely ignores the fact that the only reason most Marvel characters are white is because they had to be because of the time they were written. Very, very few Marvel characters “have” to be white. Captain America? Sure. You cannot have a black or female Steve Rogers in America in 1940. But most characters? There’s no reason why they are straight, white or male. Other than they were created at a time when there was no other option.
Different strokes.Heh. It’s funny people point to Orville. I tried to like it. I really did. Managed to get through three seasons hoping it would get better.
I do not like The Orville. Overly preachy, I just find it unwatchable. I gave up some time in season three. The characters were unsympathetic and really unlikeable to me.
I just don’t get the appeal ofThe Orville.
Huh. The Little Mermaid with a white Ariel is a Disney classic but the exact same story with a black Ariel is lazy writing. Funny how that works.
Honestly I think the real problem is trying to separate honest critique from …well… criticism that is grounded in less honest base.
Is it lazy writing to cast black actors as hobbits? A black Hermione on stage? A black Anne Boleyn?
If it really doesn’t matter, then why do we wind up having the word for word same conversation every single time? A black Vulcan was tokenism when Viyager did it. A black actor playing an elf was tokenism. Every single time we cast anyone with an excess of melanin, it’s automatically described as tokenism.
Makes the conversation really hard.
Not when you do mass polling of people, which all modern shows do. They all poll to find out how their audience likes or dislikes certain characters.Boring and unlikeable tend to be a matter of personal opinion.