[Polyhedron] Are women interested in this type of fantasy?

[Illuminae]

Just an opinion:

I like mentally AND physically (not big muscles, but the martial artist type) strong women who ALSO like to feel protected by me, but that could kick some serious a$$ on their own.

The Trinity/Jesse Custer´s girlfriend kind.

 

[Mark Chance]

Woman hugging man's leg = chauvanism; adolescent male power fantasy; in poor taste. Man clinging to woman's leg = empowerment; fresh attitude; battle on Xena!

Because if we didn't have double standards, we wouldn't have any standards at all!

 

[Artimoff]

For those who were expecting my usual defence of gender difference, you can blame my liberalism here on my being a huge Buffy the Vampire Slayer fan. I highly recommend that anyone continuing in this thread watch/rewatch the Buffy Want Beer episode.

But primate Buffy (her ID) rejected the boy she had to rescue. She had been obsessed with him untill that point, after that rescue she didn't give him another thought.

That was the problem with finding Buffy another boyfriend and why she only likes vampires, they can fight back, don't need rescuing (well Angel needed rescuing sometimes). The modern Wonder Woman has this same problem, no one but Superman stands up to the high standards of a rescuer for her. If only Captain America were a DC character, then she'd have a mate.


Men rescue women everyday. Every time the fuse blows or the garage door gets stuck. Traditionaly men do the work of the handiman around the home.

 

[Kahuna Burger]

Men rescue women everyday. Every time the fuse blows or the garage door gets stuck. Traditionaly men do the work of the handiman around the home.

And in my expereince, women rescue men every day... in many of the same situations.

Supporting a stereotype with a stereotype is a bit circular...

Kahuna burger

 

[Kahuna Burger]

Re: not quite

No, the question here is "Would she deem the man she rescued as sexually attractive as a result? [or would she deem him less attractive because she had rescued him?]"

And the answer is the conventional one. The woman rescued is distinctly willing to find her rescuer as attractive. The woman rescuer feels no such urge [on average of course].

Actually the answer is "you don't know". But you have an assumption you are very willing to put forth as fact... why is that?

This thread is nominally about women's attitudes, but I think we're learning a lot more about men's. And I find what we're learning very interesting.

Kahuna burger

 

[kenjib]

Re: Re: not quite

Actually the answer is "you don't know". But you have an assumption you are very willing to put forth as fact... why is that?

This thread is nominally about women's attitudes, but I think we're learning a lot more about men's. And I find what we're learning very interesting.

Kahuna burger

LOL!

 

[Lamoni]

my 2 cents

I believe that there is no problem role playing this. It seems the only problem anyone ever had was with the assumption that the guy being rescued had to be more helpless or weak than the female rescuer.

It would be very easy for any character to rescue a much stronger character. No matter how capable you are, you can be in a situation where you are overwhelmed and captured. Once you are in chains, you aren't very effective. Anyone that could sneak in, free you and maybe hand you a weapon could be your rescuer.

I am not trying to say that it isn't appropriate for the female rescuer to be a much better/stronger fighter. All I am saying is that I see no reason why this situation couldn't be role played by anyone. Each person has their own things that they find attractive/unattractive and they can fit the situation to their own liking.

It was also already mentioned that the female rescuer could rescue the guy from political/social problems instead of physical danger.

I could post my thoughts on gender differences, but that has already been discussed enough and it would only draw more comments that wouldn't really change anyone's opinion. People always ask for evidence, but if the evidence doesn't fit with their ideas, they can usually find reasons to discard it for one reason or another. I do the same thing. I have my own beliefs and things that don't fit with my beliefs I say are from less reliable sources. How many times has science changed its mind on things?

 

[Nifft]

How Women's Minds Work

I will examine the phenomenon of "female preference for needy male" through several rigorous, scientific sources:

Folk Wisdom: Some women like "fixer-upper" projects for mates. So sure, she likes to rescue guys, just like Florence Nightengale liked the guy(s) she nursed back to health.

Bad Movie Quotes:
Richard Gere: "So what does the princess do after the prince rescues her?"
Julia Roberts: "She rescues him right back!"
-- Pretty Woman (I think)

Seriously, though: consider a party containing a Fighter and a Rogue. There will be times when the Rogue must rescue the Fighter, and vise-versa. Does the Rogue not respect the Fighter just 'cause s/he needed saving?

-- Nifft

 

[Artimoff]

And in my expereince, women rescue men every day... in many of the same situations.

Supporting a stereotype with a stereotype is a bit circular...

Kahuna burger

Yes but the women who rescue their men in this way usualy think less of that man. I'm not saying women don't/can't rescue men in thisa way, it's just that women put the situation in the evergrowing column of reasons to question their relationship with him (he becomes less desireable).

 

[WizarDru]

Mary Shelley. Pet peeve. English lit student and all. Wife to Percy Bysshe Shelley, who died in a storm on an Italian lake age 25 IIRC.

He was 30 (1792-1822). He drowned, leaving Mary Shelley peniless with a 2 year old son, and dependent on Sir Timothy, her father-in-law, who was a right royal #$*(%*. He threatened to cut Mary Shelley's support off, if she dared to publish a biography of her husband, apparently because he hated his son, and the fact that his son had (by proxy) poorly represented him in his work.

Personally, I thought the cover to the minigame was hysterically funny. It's a very ironic and intentional reversal of the classic cover to such materials, and I thought it was rather clever. I'm not really sure what the fuss is over, exactly.

There is, of course, the possibility of playing with the main character as gay, too, but that may be just putting gasoline in the water.