But given that TLJ was Dumb (heroes) & Dumber (1st order) in space, our heroes don't really have much to fear from them.
Curious. How are they more dumb than the Rebels and Empire? Do you realize that Space Opera is not about tactical correctness?
As for Kylo? I stopped caring about him the moment he took his helmet off & started pitching a tantrum in TFA.
From that point on he just wasn't a credible character (let alone a villain) anymore to me.
Interesting. I found that *more* credible. It isn't like villains are *all* going to be pillars of emotional strength. When your source of power is to engage anger, you don't expect people with anger control issues?