TSR TSR3.5 Voluntarily Dismisses Lawsuit

A lawsuit filed by TSR3 against D&D owners Wizards of the Coast a few days ago was voluntarily dismissed.

Dismissal without prejudice means that the suit can be filed again. The suit lasted two days from the 7th to the 9th of December. The IndieGoGo fundraiser to fund it is still running.

TSR LLC v. Wizards of the Coast LLC (7:21-cv-00210), North Carolina Eastern District Court

TSR LLC v. Wizards of the Coast LLC (7:21-cv-00210), North Carolina Eastern District Court, Filed: 12/07/2021

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TSR - TSR3.5 Launches IndieGogo Campaign to "Stop" WotC

The latest in the TSR3 saga, which has gone quiet for a while, is a new IndieGoGo campaign launched to "stop Wizards of the Coast". They cite wrongful bullying of TSR, and refusal to answer requests that WotC show TSR "proof of their claims" (although the campaign page doesn't mention what those...

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At first glance, the below document is dated 21st October so it’s reasonable to assume that it is not related to the recent filing; however, apparently that date is incorrect. The correct date is in the footer, and this is indeed the dismissal of the recent filing and can be found on PACER (Public Access to Court Electronic Records).

 

[embee]

A lawsuit filed by TSR3 against D&D owners Wizards of the Coast a few days ago was voluntarily dismissed.

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Dismissal without prejudice means that the suit can be filed again. The suit lasted two days from the 7th to the 9th of December. The IndieGoGo fundraiser to fund it is still running.

TSR LLC v. Wizards of the Coast LLC (7:21-cv-00210), North Carolina Eastern District Court

TSR LLC v. Wizards of the Coast LLC (7:21-cv-00210), North Carolina Eastern District Court, Filed: 12/07/2021

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TSR - TSR3.5 Launches IndieGogo Campaign to "Stop" WotC

The latest in the TSR3 saga, which has gone quiet for a while, is a new IndieGoGo campaign launched to "stop Wizards of the Coast". They cite wrongful bullying of TSR, and refusal to answer requests that WotC show TSR "proof of their claims" (although the campaign page doesn't mention what those...

www.enworld.org

At first glance, the below document is dated 21st October so it’s reasonable to assume that it is not related to the recent filing; however, apparently that date is incorrect. The correct date is in the footer, and this is indeed the dismissal of the recent filing and can be found on PACER (Public Access to Court Electronic Records).

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More like TSR 3.5's lawyer wised up and realized his law license is worth a helluva lot more than whatever he stood to gain from this lawsuit.

 

[jdrakeh]

It's fraud and mismanagement all the way down with Luke Gygax trying to do damage, but even he's exasperated at the crowd his brother has gotten involved with.

Did you mean damage control? Because Luke's hands are clean in all of this, AFAIK. Especially this nuT$R stuff. He has very publicly disassociated with Ernie, LaNasa, and nuT$R up to and including un-inviting them to GaryCon.

 

[JediSoth]

Did you mean damage control? Because Luke's hands are clean in all of this, AFAIK. Especially this nuT$R stuff. He has very publicly disassociated with Ernie, LaNasa, and nuT$R up to and including un-inviting them to GaryCon.

Yes, I did mean damage control. I'll fix that post.

 

[LordEntrails]

...s and g are 2 spaces apart on the keyboard. ...

This is the dude's NAME he's misspelling. No Typo in "Justin", but Lanasa gets 3? Pffft.

The only thing I can't figure out is why he went for such poorly disguised names and didn't just come up with entirely different names. Guys a gamer, right? He should be able to come up with names.

I really don't want to, and am not, defending the guy. I should have initially said "hand writing" and not just writing. 'n' and 'v's are very easy to misread when written with sloppy cursive.

Regardless, it seems all/we you know are the names recorded by the county. There are many reasons, including stupidity and incompetency that explain the case as well intentional deceit. It's not useful to rush to judgement on this issue, especially when their are so many other useful and informed aspects for us to discuss

 

[Sir Brennen]

Regardless, it seems all/we you know are the names recorded by the county. There are many reasons, including stupidity and incompetency that explain the case as well intentional deceit. It's not useful to rush to judgement on this issue, especially when their are so many other useful and informed aspects for us to discuss

If Justin actually meant to write his own name down multiple times with multiple donations, that's also violating campaign laws. So the typos theory does nothing to exonerate him.

I believe LaNasa's personal history (pattern of behavior) also make intentional deceit more likely. Though I grant, stupidity and incompetence are not far behind, also based on previous history. EDIT: actually, this is really an example of all three.

This is a case of when you hear hoofbeats (or see hoofprints for this instance), think horses, not zebras. Occam's shaving utensil and all that.

 

[darjr]

They've had nearly a decade to build a memorial from the Gygax Memorial Fund (to which my wife and I contributed at Gary Con more than once) and there's still NOTHING.

It's fraud and mismanagement all the way down with Luke Gygax trying to do damage control, but even he's exasperated at the crowd his brother has gotten involved with.

edit: added an omitted word that massively changed the meaning of a sentence.

I saw your later comment and noticed the change. I’m just noting, with some vehemence, that Luke Gygax isn’t involved in either, as far as I know.

If he had been they’d probably be fairly cool and already a success by now. In fact I think he’s done far more good on both fronts with GaryCon.

 

[LordEntrails]

The highlighted bit is probably expected, but certainly interesting to see written down (from the Star Frontiers Alive and Well FB group. Note, Tom's credibility is not, to me, in doubt.

 

[JediSoth]

I saw your later comment and noticed the change. I’m just noting, with some vehemence, that Luke Gygax isn’t involved in either, as far as I know.

If he had been they’d probably be fairly cool and already a success by now. In fact I think he’s done far more good on both fronts with GaryCon.

Agreed. Luke's been doing of good job of honoring the history of D&D while also being welcoming, kind and generous. I also know that because of his job (he's a Lt. Col. with the U.S. Army), he has to watch what he posts on social media. He's good people.

 

[darjr]

The highlighted bit is probably expected, but certainly interesting to see written down (from the Star Frontiers Alive and Well FB group. Note, Tom's credibility is not, to me, in doubt.View attachment 148258

Thanks for that!

 

[Nikosandros]

I saw your later comment and noticed the change. I’m just noting, with some vehemence, that Luke Gygax isn’t involved in either, as far as I know.

If he had been they’d probably be fairly cool and already a success by now. In fact I think he’s done far more good on both fronts with GaryCon.

I want to stress this. Luke isn't involved with the Gygax Memorial Fund and actually neither are LaNasa or Ernie.

 

[Deset Gled]

The highlighted bit is probably expected, but certainly interesting to see written down (from the Star Frontiers Alive and Well FB group. Note, Tom's credibility is not, to me, in doubt.

Thanks much for posting this. I had been really curious about if the SFNG really existed.

What amazes me is how little effort TSR put into this attempt. When pressed, they couldn't answer the most basic questions about how many copies existed, page count, etc. They don't even list the authors on their website. I've seen people put more effort into creating fake Wikipedia pages.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Thanks much for posting this. I had been really curious about if the SFNG really existed.

What amazes me is how little effort TSR put into this attempt. When pressed, they couldn't answer the most basic questions about how many copies existed, page count, etc. They don't even list the authors on their website. I've seen people put more effort into creating fake Wikipedia pages.

I’ve seen more convincing Nigerian Prince/IRS/foreign lottery emails.

 

[LordEntrails]

Thanks much for posting this. I had been really curious about if the SFNG really existed.

Sure. I thought it was relevant to the discussion and of interest.

I kind of want to attribute all this TSR stuff to ignorance, hubris, and incompetency. But the more I learn, the more I lean toward malfeasance and incompetency.

 

[Mannahnin]

The highlighted bit is probably expected, but certainly interesting to see written down (from the Star Frontiers Alive and Well FB group. Note, Tom's credibility is not, to me, in doubt.View attachment 148258

Do we know what date the alleged sales happened, or can we document at least when it was announced?

Morrus is doing a timeline.

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

I’ve seen more convincing Nigerian Prince/IRS/foreign lottery emails.

Attn: My Dear Friend,

It is indeed my pleasure to write you this letter which I believe will be a surprise to you. I actually found your email at the trade and email listings here at the Dungeon Hobby Shop Museum. I work in the Ministry of Minerals and Truth at TSR, and have the mandate of two senior colleagues named Michael to search discreetly and diligently for a partner that could assist us concerning a business matter which would be of mutual benefit to us all.

Kindly forward your checking account information (routing number) so that I can confirm your interest in this opportunity, and we will provide such pertinent details of the Star Frontiers book experience such as the names of authors and the completely legitimate ISBN number.

Note that this business opportunity has an expiring period of seven working days so you have to respond very urgently to avoid expiration! Your immediate response would be appreciated.
Remain blessed with all critical roles.

Your Best Regard,
Sir Prince Justin Lasagna

 

[Sacrosanct]

Attn: My Dear Friend,

It is indeed my pleasure to write you this letter which I believe will be a surprise to you. I actually found your email at the trade and email listings here at the Dungeon Hobby Shop Museum. I work in the Ministry of Minerals and Truth at TSR, and have the mandate of two senior colleagues named Michael to search discreetly and diligently for a partner that could assist us concerning a business matter which would be of mutual benefit to us all.

Kindly forward your checking account information (routing number) so that I can confirm your interest in this opportunity, and we will provide such pertinent details of the Star Frontiers book experience such as the names of authors and the completely legitimate ISBN number.

Note that this business opportunity has an expiring period of seven working days so you have to respond very urgently to avoid expiration! Your immediate response would be appreciated.
Remain blessed with all critical roles.

Your Best Regard,
Sir Prince Justin Lasagna

The grammar is too on point. Take out some periods, and change random words to capitalization, and make sure every fourth word is misspelled.

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

The grammar is too on point. Take out some periods, and change random words to capitalization, and make sure every fourth word is misspelled.

I mean ... when your grift can't even aspire to the level of Nigerian scam email because you lack a basic familiarity with English spelling and grammar ... maybe that's something to ponder?

 

[Wilphe]

Its a carefully curated cavalcade of ineptitude in order that we misunderestimate them

 

[Maxperson]

I’ve seen more convincing Nigerian Prince/IRS/foreign lottery emails.

They're less convincing than this scam letter I once received when I lived in North Hollywood, California. The letter told me that I had won the Mexican lottery, which I've never entered. I don't remember how many pesos it was, but in parentheses it had 300ish million USD. All I had to do to claim my winnings was send $20 to an address in Amsterdam.

 

[Umbran]

Its a carefully curated cavalcade of ineptitude in order that we misunderestimate them

To quote the Middleman, their plan is sheer elegance in its simplicity.