Review Umbrella academy season 3. No spoilers please

[Umbran]

One thing I'm confused about is what the intent of the show is concerning how I (as the audience) am supposed to feel about Vanya/Viktor.

The show doesn't make the decision of how to feel for you. It presents a character, and you feel... however you feel.

 

[Ryujin]

The show doesn't make the decision of how to feel for you. It presents a character, and you feel... however you feel.

And I certainly appreciate it for doing that. I'm tired of media like movies trying to manipulate me, with music, into feeling how they want me to feel. Just let the story play out.

 

[Argyle King]

The show doesn't make the decision of how to feel for you. It presents a character, and you feel... however you feel.

That could be said of any story.

At the same time, there's typically some intent behind why things are presented a certain way when telling a story.

I get the impression that certain scenes are set up to foster a particular response or to explain behaviors of a character in ways which elicit sympathy.

Edit: If I can attempt to draw a parallel to pro wrestling, there's a difference between "heat" and "go away heat." The latter isn't a positive thing long term.

 

[Argyle King]

I just finished season 3.

The last few episodes seem to write Viktor in a way which comes across better.

I was trying to figure out the number pattern of the hotel room. It seemed as though there was some significance to what order the numbers were in.

I think Reginald's plan could have been explained a little better. I understand what (I think) the machine controls did. I'm not sure how clear it came across to the average viewer right before the show ended a season.

Is a season 4 planned?

 

[Umbran]

And I certainly appreciate it for doing that. I'm tired of media like movies trying to manipulate me, with music, into feeling how they want me to feel. Just let the story play out.

I find that a good score really is important in media presentation. Star Wars needs its John Williams.

 

[Imaculata]

I do appreciate that the show allows us to dislike characters. They are a disfunctional family, with lots of flaws.

 

[Ryujin]

I find that a good score really is important in media presentation. Star Wars needs its John Williams.

Yes, a good score is very important, however, more and more I see what I would call manipulative scores. The music should mirror the action on screen, not try and tell you how to feel about it.

 

[Mezuka]

Yes, a good score is very important, however, more and more I see what I would call manipulative scores. The music should mirror the action on screen, not try and tell you how to feel about it.

That is how Spielberg's very successful action movies were made.

 

[Umbran]

Yes, a good score is very important, however, more and more I see what I would call manipulative scores. The music should mirror the action on screen, not try and tell you how to feel about it.

Ah. I think of that less as the music being "manipulative" and more that the composer is just a better storyteller than the writing/directing/acting team.

 

[Ryujin]

Ah. I think of that less as the music being "manipulative" and more that the composer is just a better storyteller than the writing/directing/acting team.

If the film has to rely on the music to tell the story, and it isn't a musical, then they got problems.

 

[billd91]

If the film has to rely on the music to tell the story, and it isn't a musical, then they got problems.

Not a fan of Conan the Barbarian, eh?

 

[billd91]

Yes, a good score is very important, however, more and more I see what I would call manipulative scores. The music should mirror the action on screen, not try and tell you how to feel about it.

If a score isn't playing on your emotions, what's it doing there? If you think reflecting what's being portrayed on screen isn't also telling you how to feel about it... then I really don't know what to tell you.

 

[payn]

Not a fan of Conan the Barbarian, eh?

 

[Umbran]

If the film has to rely on the music to tell the story, and it isn't a musical, then they got problems.

Why are they in trouble. Films are not books made only of words. They are a different media. Why should they be so limited in what they use to tell a story?

 

[Hussar]

Yeah I gotta say that the music in movies is almost always a major element. What’s Batman without Danny Elfman? Watch Jaws with no music. Top gun? Any horror movie?

 

[Imaculata]

Music in recent movies does feel like it has been taking a bit of a backseat. Does anyone remember the theme for Doctor Strange, or Black Widow? And I can't even remember the last time any movie has had a soundtrack anything like Jurassic Park or Pirates of the Caribbean. I love it when a powerful soundtrack supports the emotion in the movie, it can be a great asset. But lately it feels like every soundtrack is just this dreary ambient, like with a lot of Nolan movies. I miss the big soundtracks with memorable themes.

I think the last tv show I saw which had a good soundtrack, was the Queens Gambit.

 

[Umbran]

Music in recent movies does feel like it has been taking a bit of a backseat. Does anyone remember the theme for Doctor Strange, or Black Widow?

Ah. With a few exceptions (see previous John Williams reference) I don't actually want the music to stand out from the film, in the same way that I don't generally want every. single. line. to be a quotable quip.

Most of the time, I'm quite okay with the music doing its job, but not appearing to be a separate beast from the rest of the film.

But lately it feels like every soundtrack is just this dreary ambient, like with a lot of Nolan movies. I miss the big soundtracks with memorable themes.

Is that more about the music itself, or the kinds of movies we are getting these days? Like Nolan movies?

 

[Imaculata]

Is that more about the music itself, or the kinds of movies we are getting these days? Like Nolan movies?

It doesn't seem exclusive to Nolan movies, and more of a current trend. But Nolan movies definitely are guilty of it a lot, which I feel is a shame.

Danny Elfman's score for Tim Burton's Batman is fantastic. It is score that propels the movie forward. Compare this with the music for The Dark Knight, which is pretty forgettable. Fantastic Batman movie, but not a soundtrack that I would ever put in a playlist.

Not every movie needs a soundtrack that epic of course. But it seems odd that a lot of superhero movies as of late, have been lacking a unique theme tune.

 

[payn]

Danny Elfman's score for Tim Burton's Batman is fantastic. It is score that propels the movie forward. Compare this with the music for The Dark Knight, which is pretty forgettable. Fantastic Batman movie, but not a soundtrack that I would ever put in a playlist.

I dont recall the soundtrack at all. I just remember Prince tunes and Batdance.

 

[Umbran]

It doesn't seem exclusive to Nolan movies, and more of a current trend. But Nolan movies definitely are guilty of it a lot, which I feel is a shame.

I meant - how many other movies we have these days are like Nolan movies? How many are, in some sense, taking things from his style?