MarkB
Legend
It didn't bother me because I saw it coming. As soon as Agatha explained to Wanda about the anti-spellcaster sigils in her basement, I knew the finale would involve Wanda turning that trick back on her on the scale of the entire Hex.
What do you think of the post-Endgame Marvel movies? [[the mega poll!]]
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Deluxe Unhuman
That's a really good point!
I think with all that Jane stuff - which I'm all in favor of - the Gorr stuff gets minimalized. I recall a point in a the movie where we see him again after lots of other stuff happened and thinking "oh yeah - this guy!"
Whizbang Dustyboots
Gnometown Hero
The Ship of Theseus stuff was great. It didn't require a CGI battle, though.
Enevhar Aldarion
Hero
I didn't even notice because I was too busy enjoying the show to analyze it.
DrunkonDuty
he/him
It's not a fun watch. It should come with trigger warnings for depression, self-harm, and implied physical, emotional, and sexual abuse. I totally get why someone would not enjoy it.
But it is a perfect movie. Not a wasted shot or line of dialogue. The actors, all of them even the ones with only a few lines of dialogue, were brilliant. Cinematography, editing, production design, everything just pitch perfect. And despite the bleakness of the story there are many moving, uplifting, and humorous moments.
Thomas Shey
Legend
I think people who don't expect a superhero movie not to have a big battle on or near the climax are kind of not engaged with genre conventions here, but people want what they want.
Whizbang Dustyboots
Gnometown Hero
I think that's an extremely limited view of superhero comics.
BrokenTwin
Biological Disaster
Eternals felt like it would have worked a lot better as a mini series. MoM and Love & Thunder were character assassinations of Wanda and Thor and mediocre movies besides (pretty though). The three spider-mans movie was nothing but shallow fanservice that feels awkward as hell to watch outside of a theatre because there's so many pauses for the audience to cheer or whatever, but I still enjoyed the three of them interacting. Shang-Chi was great, despite the giant monster CGI boss battle ending. Black Widow was probably the most overall enjoyable.
Still haven't seen Wakanda Forever or the new Ant-Man. Will probably watch WF for that gorgeous visual design (and hunk-Namor) at some point, dunno if I'll bother with Ant-Man.
Still haven't seen Wakanda Forever or the new Ant-Man. Will probably watch WF for that gorgeous visual design (and hunk-Namor) at some point, dunno if I'll bother with Ant-Man.
Voadam
Legend
I don't know, I thought the story set up that Vision versus Vision was plausibly going to happen.
I also saw a lot of gaming parallels.
This is a fight, but it is really tough to win a straight up mirror of opposition fight alone through evenly matched brute force mechanics, so think up an alternative if you can.
3e - speaking is a free action in a fight and I think I have figured out a RAW workaround to the specific wording of the suggestion/dominate/charm command effect . . .
4e - Skill challenges can go on in the middle of a fight
Whizbang Dustyboots
Gnometown Hero
Wakanda Forever is pretty good. It's gorgeous, and Namor is really interesting (and makes the Aquaman movie look even more cheesy), but the whole thing has an understandable pall over it that it never quite escapes.
Thomas Shey
Legend
When viewed as a whole, I don't. Throughout most of the history of the genre, I'd be hardpressed to think of a storyline that did not have a physical confrontation as part of its finale, and the few I can are very clear outliers.
Frankly, it strikes me as objecting to the fact that almost all Westerns have at least one gunfight. You can have the occasional historical set in the same time period that doesn't do that, but they aren't really Westerns, and you can have the occasional people-with-powers story that doesn't have combat, but they aren't really superhero stories. Even the most cerebral oriented of the latter feature that, the only usual question is the proportion.
Thomas Shey
Legend
Its hard to see how any sequel there wasn't going to have that problem, honestly. But not to do one would probably also have done Boseman a different sort of disservice. It was pretty much a damned if you do, damned if you don't.
I agree, I really think the eternal as a tv show was the way to go. They had so much ground to cover that 1 3 hour movie just couldn’t get it all in
BrokenTwin
Biological Disaster
Yeah, the exact same plot beats spread out over a six episode mini series would have had so much more time to breath and better establish the relationships between the Eternals.
Lanefan
Victoria Rules
I'm in the minority here in one respect: I actually thought Eternals was pretty good at being what it was: an introduction and boot-up for a whole new swath of characters; a Part I of something bigger. Oh sure, the heroes did some stuff too, but to me that wasn't the point. Now if they never make another Eternals then in hindsight this movie will look like nothing more than a failed experiment, which is too bad as I think they're onto the beginnings of something good there.
As for the rest, Spiderman is probably my least favourite of any superhero anywhere, but even then the last one (and I too get the bloody titles mixed up) was pretty damn good. And Dr. Strange MoM would IMO have been better done as a Scarlet Witch movie (she never did get a movie of her own ), with Strange appearing but not starring; it and the first Spiderman got my only "Bad" votes.
Thor L+T provides the camp and silliness it advertises on the tin. Good fun. They did about as well with Wakanda Forever as they really could have done, given the situation; and Black Widow is good but really should have come out before Endgame rather than after.
Haven't seen the new Ant Man yet, nor any of the TV series.
As for the rest, Spiderman is probably my least favourite of any superhero anywhere, but even then the last one (and I too get the bloody titles mixed up) was pretty damn good. And Dr. Strange MoM would IMO have been better done as a Scarlet Witch movie (she never did get a movie of her own
), with Strange appearing but not starring; it and the first Spiderman got my only "Bad" votes.Thor L+T provides the camp and silliness it advertises on the tin. Good fun. They did about as well with Wakanda Forever as they really could have done, given the situation; and Black Widow is good but really should have come out before Endgame rather than after.
Haven't seen the new Ant Man yet, nor any of the TV series.
Ryujin
Legend
Wanda didn't get a movie but she and Vision did get the series "WandaVision." I would have liked to have seen more of her character, but there is a fair bit. I had trouble getting through the first few episodes, having grown up with the sitcoms that those episodes are based on, but it got better.I'm in the minority here in one respect: I actually thought Eternals was pretty good at being what it was: an introduction and boot-up for a whole new swath of characters; a Part I of something bigger. Oh sure, the heroes did some stuff too, but to me that wasn't the point. Now if they never make another Eternals then in hindsight this movie will look like nothing more than a failed experiment, which is too bad as I think they're onto the beginnings of something good there.
As for the rest, Spiderman is probably my least favourite of any superhero anywhere, but even then the last one (and I too get the bloody titles mixed up) was pretty damn good. And Dr. Strange MoM would IMO have been better done as a Scarlet Witch movie (she never did get a movie of her own
Thor L+T provides the camp and silliness it advertises on the tin. Good fun. They did about as well with Wakanda Forever as they really could have done, given the situation; and Black Widow is good but really should have come out before Endgame rather than after.
Haven't seen the new Ant Man yet, nor any of the TV series.
There was some buzz about "Eternals 2", some time back, but I doubt that it's happening. Both industry and viewer reviews were just too mixed.
Whizbang Dustyboots
Gnometown Hero
I think WF is a mixed bag, and I do agree they had a tough sell with Chadwick's death. We can argue whether Shuri was the right choice for the mantle vs Okeye, you can argue is bringing in another teenage genius that overlapped heavily with Shuri was a good idea (you can also argue that for Bruce banner and Tony Stark but their fields are at least pretty different).
I think my number 1 complaint with WF is....its just too damn long. It really drags in the middle, just nothing is happening for a long stretch. They could have cut out a good 30-45 minutes of movie and it probably would have been a lot better.
MarkB
Legend
To me it's just too disconnected from the rest of the world. It's mostly just one super-powered fictional nation fighting another super-powered fictional nation.
Also, after the amazing world-building they did with Wakanda in the first Black Panther movie, while they didn't exactly drop the ball on it this time, they didn't really add much to it either.
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