Battlestar Galactica:Season 2; Part 5 NSCR/8.12.05
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wingsandsword
Legend
A bit of random speculation about the New BSG:
People have been wondering how to reconcile the "Life Here Began Out There" concept of BSG with the pretty overwhelming biological evidence that life on Earth originated on Earth. Especially with the info that the Exodus from Kobol was only 3000 years ago, when there was very distinctly known civilizations on Earth already.
What if it did in BSG as well?
Say, several centuries from now, Earth is polluted and nearly ruined. An exodus to a newly discovered inhabitable world across the Galaxy begins, with this new world named Kobol. Kobol is the new home of Humans for a long time, centuries or millennia. Eventually, Kobol itself was uninhabitable, so another Exodus was begun, this time to a series of 12 planets discovered further across the Galaxy, with one faction wanting to return to Earth and rebuild the original homeworld. The "Earth" faction loses touch with the rest of the colonies (or even severs ties, disliking them for political or ideological reasons), and the Colonies spend their 3000 years before the Cylon Holocaust. The idea that their civlization is distantly descended from ours makes them having the same road signs and fashions at least a little less strange (even if they are ancient designs, they are known to them).
Now, the Earth faction has had 3 millennia to rebuild Earth, and it's probably somewhere at least after the year 6000 AD to our calendar. When they find Earth, will it have cities like Washington DC as ancient ruins preserved like we look at the crumbling remains of Rome? Will there be an entire alternate Human government there with a a divergent culture or some kind of revival of older Earth beliefs. If the Colonials are polytheistic, maybe the Earth Humans returned to the monotheistic beliefs common to Earth of our epoch, and if the Cylons have any reason to suspect this (they infiltrated the Colonies, maybe information on ancient beliefs of Kobol before the Lords of Kobol were worshipped as gods indicated a monotheistic belief system, hence Boomer's quote of "be fruitful"), thus the great Cylon interest in finding Earth, finding Humans who share their beliefs, and the Cylons attacked trying to force the Prophecy to come true so the Humans would lead them to Earth, where the Cylons hope to find a major addition to their religion?
Wild speculation, but I'm sitting here waiting for my ride to Gen Con to pick me up, and it just went through my head.
People have been wondering how to reconcile the "Life Here Began Out There" concept of BSG with the pretty overwhelming biological evidence that life on Earth originated on Earth. Especially with the info that the Exodus from Kobol was only 3000 years ago, when there was very distinctly known civilizations on Earth already.
What if it did in BSG as well?
Say, several centuries from now, Earth is polluted and nearly ruined. An exodus to a newly discovered inhabitable world across the Galaxy begins, with this new world named Kobol. Kobol is the new home of Humans for a long time, centuries or millennia. Eventually, Kobol itself was uninhabitable, so another Exodus was begun, this time to a series of 12 planets discovered further across the Galaxy, with one faction wanting to return to Earth and rebuild the original homeworld. The "Earth" faction loses touch with the rest of the colonies (or even severs ties, disliking them for political or ideological reasons), and the Colonies spend their 3000 years before the Cylon Holocaust. The idea that their civlization is distantly descended from ours makes them having the same road signs and fashions at least a little less strange (even if they are ancient designs, they are known to them).
Now, the Earth faction has had 3 millennia to rebuild Earth, and it's probably somewhere at least after the year 6000 AD to our calendar. When they find Earth, will it have cities like Washington DC as ancient ruins preserved like we look at the crumbling remains of Rome? Will there be an entire alternate Human government there with a a divergent culture or some kind of revival of older Earth beliefs. If the Colonials are polytheistic, maybe the Earth Humans returned to the monotheistic beliefs common to Earth of our epoch, and if the Cylons have any reason to suspect this (they infiltrated the Colonies, maybe information on ancient beliefs of Kobol before the Lords of Kobol were worshipped as gods indicated a monotheistic belief system, hence Boomer's quote of "be fruitful"), thus the great Cylon interest in finding Earth, finding Humans who share their beliefs, and the Cylons attacked trying to force the Prophecy to come true so the Humans would lead them to Earth, where the Cylons hope to find a major addition to their religion?
Wild speculation, but I'm sitting here waiting for my ride to Gen Con to pick me up, and it just went through my head.
cignus_pfaccari
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wingsandsword said:
Interesting.
I prefer the idea that a small remnant made it to Earth, somehow lost their tecnhology, landed in central Europe, and migrated south to form the Greeks with the existing Mycenean civilization. It's a bit hard to account for losing their technology without having a generation ship, though.
Brad
Lord Pendragon
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I'm curious. If the humanoid cylons are genetically engineered humans...then aren't the cylons engineering themselves out of existence? I mean, once they are so close to human that they are indistinguishable from humans and can breed with them, what is left that defines them as cylon?
For those who've watched all the episodes, has it been revealed/proven that the humanoid cylons are indeed 100% organic?
For those who've watched all the episodes, has it been revealed/proven that the humanoid cylons are indeed 100% organic?
Mustrum_Ridcully
Legend
It seems as if only dissection can show the differences, but it is impossible to say (from a viewers point of view) if that means there are inorganic parts or not...Lord Pendragon said:
WizarDru
Adventurer
Lord Pendragon said:
They are 'virtually' indistinguishable from humans...at least to humans. They clearly must be differences, given the ability to 'upload' their memories when they're destroyed. No one has found all the exact differences, and Boomer would be the first corpse they've got to examine, so we'll probably get more details eventually. The real problem is our expert opinion is Gaius...who isn't exactly a bastion of telling the truth (even to himself).
The first two questions are, I think, one of the driving questions of the series. What defines you as being human? Clearly they think they are superior...but they also are gazing into the abyss...and the abyss gazes also.
WizarDru
Adventurer
Mercule said:
In brief: the second episode of season one, "Water", opens with Boomer coming to consciouness from a sort of 'sleepwalker' state. She's dressed in a wetsuit with diving equipment, and in her duffel bag is a huge amount of plastique and a detonator. When she goes to return it (in a panic), she finds that five more ARE MISSING. Then...
well, heck, just read about it HERE.
Kid Charlemagne
I am the Very Model of a Modern Moderator
Mercule said:
I don't remember the details, but Boomer was (almost certainly - I don't think we see absolute proof) responsible for blowing up a significant part of Galactica's water supply, putting the fleet at severe risk. She appeared to have no memory of what she did, but the evidence was pretty damning. Chief covered for her. At this point, it was up in the air whether she was a Cylon or not, I think. This may be the episode that introduced Caprica-Boomer, at which point we knew she was a Cylon for certain. I'm not totally clear on that.
Storm Raven
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WizarDru said:
They say that they upload their memories when destroyed. I don't know if this has actually been confirmed.
No she isn't. They've bumped off a few other anthroforms before.
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