Battlestar Galactica:Season 2; Part 5 NSCR/8.12.05

[dravot]

Hrm. Freud could have a lot to say about the cylons.

Brad

Note to Starbuck: sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

 

[Thornir Alekeg]

Perhaps the anthroforms are designed to be infertile, except in certain limited cases?

Possibly to control them, keep them from taking over? This comes back to the question I keep having: who created the anthroform cylons? My impression of the centurions is that they don't exhibit a whole lot of independent creative thinking. Is there another class of cylons that are thinkers/researchers/developers? Is there just one who somehow developed new abilities to think beyond its programming, or were they developed by humans? Is whoever created them who they consider to be the one true god?

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

Possibly to control them, keep them from taking over? This comes back to the question I keep having: who created the anthroform cylons? My impression of the centurions is that they don't exhibit a whole lot of independent creative thinking. Is there another class of cylons that are thinkers/researchers/developers? Is there just one who somehow developed new abilities to think beyond its programming, or were they developed by humans? Is whoever created them who they consider to be the one true god?

Maybe we just don´t see enough from the Cylons - maybe they usually don´t communicate verbally, but use radio waves.
Maybe, as they were fighting the resistance in this episode, they shouted each other commands, and when the Heavy Raider appeared, on of them screamed "holy frack!" before he was shot down...
I guess as long as we can´t hear their conversation, we have little chance to know how independent they actually are...

 

[Steel_Wind]

I must admit I'm curious about why Starbuck is "Special" to the Cylons. Also about what they did while she was "under".

Starbuck has a destiny. It is wrapped up in part with the Arrow of Apollo, but is clearly more than that. What, exactly, that is remains to be revealed. The Cylons know she is special though; one of the humans who has powers and abilities beyond the norm.

As for what they did, Ron Moore's Podcast makes it clear that they took one of Starbuck's ovaries, enraging Starbuck and raising the spectre of Starbuck / Cylon hybrid children at some point in the series - if not outright Starbuck modified copies. I, for one, expect this a some point late this season or next.

In Borg talk, the Cylons are so impressed with Starbuck that they wish to add her biological distinctiveness to their own and are prepared to exert considerable efforts and divert laboratory resources to attempt to do so.

For those who have not made a habit of listening to Ron Moore's podcasts, I urge you to do so. It adds a lot of context and backstory to what you see on the screen. Very interesting stuff.

 

[TanisFrey]

Maybe we just don´t see enough from the Cylons - maybe they usually don´t communicate verbally, but use radio waves.
Maybe, as they were fighting the resistance in this episode, they shouted each other commands, and when the Heavy Raider appeared, on of them screamed "holy frack!" before he was shot down...
I guess as long as we can´t hear their conversation, we have little chance to know how independent they actually are...

In the 78 series you ocationaly saw things from the Cyclon point of view, mainly because there was no coloniel present in the seen. We have not seen this in the in the new show since the miniseries. We have only seen things from an prespective of the coloniels.

In the 78 series there were 3 types of cyclon. The typical Silver toster. The Gold "Commander" toster, was seen a couple of times. And the "thinker" cyclon with the lights in their head. A LARP friend wants this last model come back.

The Silver toster had no personality. The Golds made desitions for BaseStars. And the thinkers has full blown personaliaties.

 

[dravot]

In the 78 series you occasionally saw things from the Cyclon point of view, mainly because there was no colonial present in the scene. We have not seen this in the in the new show since the miniseries. We have only seen things from an perspective of the colonials.

Not true. In S1, we saw some of the human cylons as they tracked Helo on Caprica. "If he goes North, we kill him. If he goes South, we let him live." We also learned that the Six cylon model hates the Boomer cylon model.

 

[Thornir Alekeg]

In the 78 series there were 3 types of cyclon. The typical Silver toster. The Gold "Commander" toster, was seen a couple of times. And the "thinker" cyclon with the lights in their head. A LARP friend wants this last model come back.

Didn't we also see some kind of "Supreme Commander" in a few episodes? He was very shadowy, but I always thought he looked like he had some kind of afro going. Lucifer (the one with the lights in his head) reported to him sitting on the big chair before Baltar took the seat.

 

[TanisFrey]

Not true. In S1, we saw some of the human cylons as they tracked Helo on Caprica. "If he goes North, we kill him. If he goes South, we let him live." We also learned that the Six cylon model hates the Boomer cylon model.

Being petty, there was still a human in the scean, Helo

 

[TanisFrey]

Didn't we also see some kind of "Supreme Commander" in a few episodes? He was very shadowy, but I always thought he looked like he had some kind of afro going. Lucifer (the one with the lights in his head) reported to him sitting on the big chair before Baltar took the seat.

It was going to be one of the last Reptillion cyclons but, they did not like way it look and refilmed to to be in the shadows or over its sholder. Lucifer was one of the ones with the lights in his head, you got to see more of them in the Living Legend esps.

 

[Fast Learner]

Being petty, there was still a human in the scean, Helo

There were a variety of scenes during that episode, though, with only Cylons, primarily with Six and Sharon and the other guy talking and arguing.