BATTLESTAR GALACTICA: Season 2A Part 10; NSCR/9.23.2005. Mid-Season Ending

[dravot]

CAG of Pegasus. Is just me or did I see the actor whom played the Cyclon whom was found out hiding on the BS Galactica in the miniseries??????????

I was wondering something similar myself. The guy looks familiar.

 

[The Grumpy Celt]

Memories of the movie "Boxing Helena" came back to me.

That was such a odd movie - I went into it wide-eyed, thinking it was about women boxing... Dear Lord.

In any event, given the circumstances the BSG refugees find themselves in, it is surprising more are not like the crew of the Pegasus in terms of mood and disposition. Further, civilian government would seem to be a luxury. Aside from shooting her XO, I would sooner follow Cain that Adama.

 

[Endur]

My prediction for part 2:

The two groups of fighters do not attack each other, instead ...

A massive group of Cylon fighters attack at the beginning of the episode. The only thing that saves the fleet is the fact that the two battlestars already launched their fighters.

After the battle is over ... angst resumes its place in the storyline.

 

[Storm Raven]

In any event, given the circumstances the BSG refugees find themselves in, it is surprising more are not like the crew of the Pegasus in terms of mood and disposition. Further, civilian government would seem to be a luxury. Aside from shooting her XO, I would sooner follow Cain that Adama.

Not a chance. Cain is operating like nothing has happened - trying to run her ship exactly as if the Colonies still existed as they had before the attack. Adama has adapted to the changed circumstances in ways that appear to be condusive to long-term survival (and keeping a civilian government is part of that).

Cain's path is one of revenge and destruction. Adama's is one of survival. I know which one I'd be in favor of.

Any way, my prediction - Roslin will order Cain to stand down and hand over Tyrol and Helo for an impartial trial, phrasing it as a Presidential order. Cain will ignore her, but her pilots and members of her crew (including the XO) will turn on her and remove her from command. Once she is out of the way, a raft of horror stories will emerge concerning the actions of the Pegasus, and they won't be about fighting cylons.

 

[Flexor the Mighty!]

I got this impression as well - with Cain claiming that she lost over 700 crew in the first few minutes of the attack I can see them gladly impressing any civilian personnel that they came across into service. Just grab the personnel, blow up the civilian ship or trash it for parts, and keep on moving. Don't like it, too bad - they either beat you into submission or worse - looking at the few women on the Pegasus.

I would assume that drafting or pressing civilians into service would be a necessity in the fleet even before Pegasus showed up. There really isn't there luxury of having people do things that are not directly helping the survival of the fleet. If enough Marines are killed then civilians are going to have to replace them. You would use the volunteer angle to hopefully get the good ones that want to serve first, but if you need more bodies they they are going to have to be drafted. In this situation you don't have much choice. I can't see the majority of the fleet having any argument with that in thier situation. Unless they are so out of touch with reality that they are unable to see how humanity is on the razors edge and extreme sacrifice is going to be necessary for the species survival.

 

[BrooklynKnight]

Didnt the Galactica scour the colonial fleet for raptor pilots in the mini series?

 

[Kid Charlemagne]

Didnt the Galactica scour the colonial fleet for raptor pilots in the mini series?

I'm pretty sure they asked for volunteers.

 

[Truth Seeker]

Not a chance. Cain is operating like nothing has happened - trying to run her ship exactly as if the Colonies still existed as they had before the attack. Adama has adapted to the changed circumstances in ways that appear to be condusive to long-term survival (and keeping a civilian government is part of that).

Cain's path is one of revenge and destruction. Adama's is one of survival. I know which one I'd be in favor of.

Any way, mey prediction - Roslin will order Cain to stand down and hand over Tyrol and Helo for an impartial trial, phrasing it as a Presidential order. Cain will ignore her, but her pilots and members of her crew (including the XO) will turn on her and remove her from command. Once she is out of the way, a raft of horror stories will emerge concerning the actions of the Pegasus, and they won't be about fighting cylons.

Wait, do you honestly think, that Cain will listen as she put it. 'The Secertary of Education?'...

And without a doubt, there are HORROR stories.

 

[Fast Learner]

Wait, do you honestly think, that Cain will listen as she put it. 'The Secertary of Education?'...

Why did you not highlight the sentence where he said "Cain will ignore her"?

 

[Truth Seeker]

Not as far as I'm concerned. Rendering the infiltrator models incapable of inflicting harm seems to be a value-neutral act to me as well.

"We're in this for the species, people!"
—Doogie Howser, SS

When I saw this, I was like, ah...a person of pure reaction, and damn the consquences as they said.

When or if, a situation presents itself, in a roleplaying you might be playing. And a incident of this specific situation happens perchance in play. Don't go harping on the DM for pulling it. You might find these same spoken words said by you, coming back full circle.

There is a point, of how much neutralization can be done, to render an individual to a less-functional capacity. If the means provided, restrict movement, then one point of the goal is achieved.

But going on par, with limb removal, is very extreme, and yes, I do know of some cultures that pratices that. But it does not mean, it should be a accepted thing all around.

Can you imagine, if that scene was more than it looks...the censorship folks would have a field day. Plus some human rights groups as well.

But as a example of treatment, between Sharon and 'Gina' are the showing of two mindsets, in opposite view.

Sharon is still called a thing.

'Gina' was abused as a thing.

*Please keep in mind, this is a just example, no demeaning on my part*

Sharon's suppose direct sincerety in helping with info, has gotten her some aid. They saved her baby.

'Gina', well, I think the pictures alone, states enough, on what happened.

The hurtful part for Sharon *Boomer #2*, that will be, or perphaps never. That the stimga of Adama being shot by her duplicate, will not ease the tension. But on some levels, she is gaining small amounts of respect. Small...

We don't know, the full story of what happened with 'Gina', how she was found, or what she did. And the only way to know anything, she has to survive this outcome with Pegasus next year.

Both are on the bad end, dealing with humans, both are locked up. Both are Cylons. But in the end, the treatment for both, are wide as much the horizon can be seen.

I like the fact, that kindness and the darkness that exist in humanity, are shown in equal scale. But as always, there is somethings, that should not be expected outright, just because we are that much capable of doing it.

But that is a gray area, when it comes to us, anyhow.