Enterprise 11-12-03

[myrdden]

Sort of a ho hum episode that had a few moments (like Reed stunning T'Pol and Tripp's handling of the horse) but really struggled to keep my attention. I did like how Archer decided to simply land in the middle of the town and step out in the open (at least with an armed armed escort). The shoot out was a bit hokey but nothing too painful.

I'm curious who makes the laws on this planet since it didn't seem like there was anything resembling a formal government (other than the sherrif).

Myrdden

 

[myrdden]

And, when the sicarrans got jumped by old Cooper, whatever his name was, the "butcher", why on earth didn't they radio for help?

Maybe their home world is too far away and this was a colony on the fringe of their known space? Who knows...there could be many reasons. Poor choice to pick the expanse though. Makes you wonder if they chose the place because of the spatial anamolies or perhaps the spatial ananolies came after? The latter probably doesn't make sense.

Myrdden

 

[DanMcS]

Sort of a ho hum episode that had a few moments (like Reed stunning T'Pol and Tripp's handling of the horse)

Yeah, that horse bit cracked me up. "I've seen all the John Ford movies." And then he couldn't make it go, and T'Pol is looking around like, "this is the dumbest mode of transportation ever."

 

[Brown Jenkin]

Maybe their home world is too far away and this was a colony on the fringe of their known space? Who knows...there could be many reasons. Poor choice to pick the expanse though. Makes you wonder if they chose the place because of the spatial anamolies or perhaps the spatial ananolies came after? The latter probably doesn't make sense.

Myrdden

The anomilies are much older since the spheres are much older. Additionally if the Anomilies were less than 300 years old the vulcans would know about thier creation (Or at least exactly when the Expanse was created).

 

[Tallok]

i didn't realize this until the end of the episode, but this series is placed before the prime directive was created. this episode was okay, but they could have done better. some scenes could have been better.

Yeah, I was thinking about this at the beginning. Also, this seemed more like your "traditional" Star Trek episode, ie, it has application, but isn't completely dependent upon older episodes (not that I don't like the new extended plot throughtout all the episodes, butit was rather refreshing that this actually *happened* and wasn't completely dependent on everyting else.) I think the character of Archer also changed a bit, he's been getting a lot more militant throughout this season, you will rmember that at the beginning, he wasn't too into the whold fighting thing

 

[LightPhoenix]

I'm gonna agree with myrdden - a few good scenes, but overall it wasn't really that spectacular an episode. It was definitely filler, which rates it a bit lower in my book. I would have liked to have seen it tied into the Xindi story a little more - maybe the reason the Scagarrans couldn't contact their people was the Xindi wiped them out too. Anyway, I have to say it was decidedly average.

Except the look Reed gave the guy after he shot T'Pol. That was hilarious!

One note, the whole thing about Trip dying in the next episode happens in the first fifteen minutes or so. It's really the beginning of the story, not the climax.

 

[Mistwell]

The aliens stole horses, in addition to people?

I would have preferred some alien animal for transport myself.

Overall, I did like it. I hope they remember to stop back on the way out of the expanse...if the series makes it that far.

 

[Datt]

The aliens stole horses, in addition to people?

I would have preferred some alien animal for transport myself.

Overall, I did like it. I hope they remember to stop back on the way out of the expanse...if the series makes it that far.

Yeah that is pretty funny. The aliens knew to take enough horses and humans to have a large enough gene pool. Not to mention humans as well. Of course makes you wonder why the crew didn't recall some old story of an old west town just up and disappearing one day.

 

[Atridis]

I really, really want to like this show, but I feel like it's desperately fighting every urge to introduce anything new to the genre. Another object lesson in fairness and tolerance? Zzzzzzz... Well, at least the obligatory Old West episode is out of the way. I think they still have to do the "homage to an old Star Trek episode" episode, though.

Related to the suspension of disbelief: I am continually unimpressed with these supposed commandos. They sit out in the open, do the occasional Capt Kirk somersault, and pip away with their rifles like they're trying to conserve ammo. I know some guys on a paint-ball team who'd wipe the floor with these losers. She had to use her scope to hit the guy in the window? If she were a US Marine, she'd never get out of BT. And haven't they ever heard of suppressive fire? C'mon people! Rock and roll!! Those yahoos with the lever-action rifles and six-shooters shouldn't have had a chance. And how do all these idiots keep boarding Enterprise and avoid getting cut to ribbons? Every time, I think how devastating a single hand grenade would be. Chemical smoke? Drop-down bulkheads? How about killing the lights and using the thermal imaging headgear that's virtually standard-issue in 2003? Oy vey...

 

[Mark]

If I were going to another planet to grab some humanoids to do heavy labor for me, and I happen to see that they had some beasts with them that they relied on for heavy labor, I'd grab as many of both as I could before leaving. Not sure about the whole town thingy. That's even a stretch for me, unless they picked them up here and there. Lots of folks "disappeared" in the frontierlands. Still, I would waste the time if I just wanted to grab a labor force. I'd grab them from concentrations of populace.

On the firepower issue, I believe they were meant to be showing restraint. It was supposed to be a peaceful mission afterall. They opened up pretty well when escaping from that mining colony a few episodes back...