Epic Commoners and Their Lot
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Aaron L
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Yair said:Hmm, so - no legal way to it, it seems.
I could make a new Epic class, but that's more house rules than we want.
Quite a few people have already told you the legal way to do it. 1 epic feat every 3 levels, standard epic save and attack bonuses. Just like any other epic character.
Yair
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Ehmm... thanks, but this is a *house rule*, not an *official rule*. Unless I missed something, that's a class build based on extrapolating from the ELH guidelines, but there isn't really such a class in the ELH (or epic SRD). I certainly agree that's a VERY reasonable DM judgment call and would provide an excellent house rule. But I posted my question in D&D Rules, not House Rules - I want an official solution.Aaron L said:
Of course, if I missed something and it IS an official solution, I'd be glad to hear about that, and I apologize in advance.
Patryn of Elvenshae
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Yair said:
Now that we've banged our head against this particular wall enough, I'll spell it out plain for ya.
"There's no official rule for Epic level Commoners because it's a dumb idea.*"
Therefore, anything you get is going to be an interpretation or "house rule."
* Dumb idea as in, "Not worth the designers' time to figure it out, because no one is going to use it." Other than you, of course.
ShaggySpellsword
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Well, the official answer is that ALL EPIC CLASSES gain the same BAB progression and save progression after level 20. All epic classes have the same HP and Skills.Skill points as their non-epic versions. That is the full extent of official rules on epic commoners.
My suggestion is: Since commoners don't get ANY special abilities at any other times, they should not receive any epic bonus feats, only being able to take epic feats at their normal multiple-of-3 levels.
My suggestion is: Since commoners don't get ANY special abilities at any other times, they should not receive any epic bonus feats, only being able to take epic feats at their normal multiple-of-3 levels.
FEADIN
My love is on Asgard
I think it's a good and official answer for the first part, for the second the SRD say:ShaggySpellsword said:
• In addition to the class features retained from nonepic levels, each class gains a bonus feat every two, three, four, or five levels after 20th. This augments each class’s progression of class features, because not all classes otherwise improve class features after 20th level. A character must select these feats from the list of bonus feats for that class. These bonus feats are in addition to the feat that every character gets every three levels. The character isn’t limited to selecting from the class list when selecting these feats.
Warehouse23
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As far as how a commoner lives long enough to become 87th level, it should be pointed out that there are some long-lived races out there.
Even in beautiful Elfland, there's got to be someone to pick the sweetly smelling fruits, and milk the unicorns, or prepare the lembas bread (or whatever the heck elf commoners do when their 102 years old and still living at home).
I think games are better when there are surly elf commoners around. Takes 'em down a peg.
Even in beautiful Elfland, there's got to be someone to pick the sweetly smelling fruits, and milk the unicorns, or prepare the lembas bread (or whatever the heck elf commoners do when their 102 years old and still living at home).
I think games are better when there are surly elf commoners around. Takes 'em down a peg.
