Into the New World - OOC - Calling NMF and Masquerade!

[Dire Lemming]

Ok, so I get 4+ Con bonus right?

Yay! I now have more VP than WP!

Should I set up my new known spells for the day? Or should I wait until I get a chance in character to retrieve them?

 

[Zurai]

You should get more than 4 VP. You get 3/4 of the maximum die roll, rounded up on even levels and down on odd levels. Even a d6 HD gives 5 + Con on even levels.

And yes, go ahead and do up your spells for today if they've changed.

 

[Dire Lemming]

I posted my updated sheet. Skills, HP, Saves, BAB, really weird class skill that apparently damages every spirit within a certain radius of me when used... :\

Anyone got a suggestion for what new first level spell I should retrieve today? I was thinking it should be something that reflects Enko's nature as a healer, also his closer connection to plants than to animals. I suppose Goodberry seems pretty obvious, but does anyone else have some other spells? Maybe from a non-core book?

EDIT: 3/4? Oops, for some reason I thought it said half.

 

[Lorthanoth]

Ooh cool, new level. The agony of choice... adept would be... weird but fun. Expert I think so I can get some skills other than baking and weaving.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Ok, the conclusion that Thane and Ryon were jumping to...

Ryon specifically called them evil spirits, or something along those lines. In fact, Erin was the first one to suggest that they weren't.

Thane specifically never said anything like that. In fact, everything Thane said was working off the assumption that they were part of the natural order. Thane just accepts that hunting and being hunted are part of life for all creatures - humans included. He bears these creatures no ill-will, which is why he was suggesting to Enko that he dispatch it mercifully.

As for leveling: finally put some points in Tumble. I had decided (with so much pain ) that Thane shouldn't have any to start because he was never in melee combat. Well, fortunately for me he managed to get stabbed before he leveled, so now he can hopefully avoid more AoOs.

 

[Dire Lemming]

Hm, apparently Thane never heard of a little something called agriculture.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Agriculture is for wusses

[sblock=Zurai]Since it seems like it may be coming up, I just want to put a little thought into working out Thane's spiritual world-view, since I'm envisioning it as somewhat different from the classical spirit shaman's. Basically I see him as listening to the forest as a whole, but not thinking that the spirits of individual animals and plants are significant. He sees everything as part of this omnipresent entity that is the forest - himself included. Since I don't know how you're really doing the metaphysics of this setting, this could either be a different interpretation of the same reality as the spirit-marked people or him actually venerating something slightly different.[/sblock]

 

[Dire Lemming]

Bah, I almost thought I knew what he was talking about, but after that look into his mind I've realized I definitely still don't. He's definitely a bit full of himself to think that someone taking the time to talk to him but not whole heartedly agreeing with him isn't listening, especially with his blanket statement about spirit talkers, but I'm sure it's not as simple as that. I think this goes back to his dad, and perhaps it's some sort of defense mechanism he's developed to cope with his disappearance that's just become part of his nature now. Too bad he won't talk about it. Enko would be happy to discuss it with him.

So I'm just gonna use goodberry today and keep all me other spells the same.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Well, you're right on a few points. Thane is extremely arrogant, and not a small bit bigoted too. Afraid you'll just have to keep hunting on the other points though, you haven't figured him out yet .

Also, I totally need to get Alistia to go adept so Thane can get an apprentice .

 

[Zurai]

NMF:That view is actually not all that incompatible with the standard view.

Everyone: Spirits aren't necessarily discrete entities. The spirit of the Noonshadow Forest is the spirits of everything inside the Noonshadow Forest. The downside to that, however, is that the nature of the spirit can change. An individual spirit - the spirit of a particular tree, for example - will remain pretty much constant over its lifetime unless something dramatic happens. A composite spirit like the spirit of the Noonshadow Forest, however, changes as all the spirits that make up its composite change. If a major part of the forest were on fire, for example, it's quite likely that the Noonshadow's spirit would alter to reflect that. That's one of the main reasons the group is being sent to appease such a far-away spirit: the elders are worried that an angry fire spirit on the mountain could spread fire into the forest, and the forest would become much less hospitable to the people of Cuirlen.

A great example of a composite spirit changing because of a change in its composition comes from the movie Princess Mononoke, where at the start of the movie a "Boar God" (giant, ancient boar who embodies the spirits of the entire boar population of his area) is shot with a crude iron bullet after many of his kind are hunted and killed for sport, and the wound becomes infected. The Boar God's spirit is driven mad with rage and pain and infection and becomes a dangerous monster.