Lost: 2/14/07

[Taelorn76]

In the previews you see Jack yelling at Cindy. How does Jack even know Cindy, she was in the tail section survivors.

 

[Demmero]

In the previews you see Jack yelling at Cindy. How does Jack even know Cindy, she was in the tail section survivors.

Waaaay back, during the doomed flight, Cindy stops in the plane's aisle and asks Jack how his drink is, he complains that it wasn't very strong, and she sneaks him an extra shot bottle or two.

Cindy was a flight attendant, not a Tailie passenger.

 

[LightPhoenix]

Waaaay back, during the doomed flight, Cindy stops in the plane's aisle and asks Jack how his drink is, he complains that it wasn't very strong, and she sneaks him an extra shot bottle or two.

Cindy was a flight attendant, not a Tailie passenger.

She wasn't a passenger, but she was a survivor from the tail section, with Ana, Bernard, Eko, and Libby.

 

[LightPhoenix]

I'm pretty sure this has been my favorite episode of the season so far. I liked the higher-concept stuff about choice versus destiny, while getting the deal on Desmond and Penny's background. It felt like the story had meaning, like it was a story worth telling. Finally, I like that people acted a little less artifically dumb in this episode.

The one problem I had... people look to how Charlie reacts? Hurley I can see, but I always got the impression Charlie was always in the doghouse with Sawyer as to the other survivors, especially with the crazy.

I think a big reason I liked this episode so much is that it wasn't weighed down with all the mysteries.

There's a phenomena in modern comics I'm sure everyone is familiar with - decompressed story-telling, and especially writing for the trades. For those that aren't, individual comic books are generally reissued as a tradeback containing anywhere from four to eight issues, but usually six, hence the name "trade". Writing for the trades means the issues included are written as if they were all being read at once, and not on the quasi-monthly comics schedule.

A while back I posted that I had re-watched season two all at once, and it was a lot better than I had remembered it being. I'm beginning to think that the Lost crew is "writing for the trades," or in this case, the DVDs. The effect is the same - individual episodes dealing with the overall arc are very empty, but watched as a whole aren't quite as bad.

Now, just like the folks here, people don't agree as to whether decompressed storytelling is a good thing or not. I happen to fall on the side that it isn't, and so just like I'm not too happy with the state of comics these days (and especially DC/Marvel), I'm not too thrilled with the state of Lost either. This season has been a little better than the last, but even so this is the first episode in a long time that really felt like it actually had something to it.

Bah, just my crazy thoughts.

Oh, and Claire looked hot with the frazzled hair. I wish she were my valentine.

 

[Demmero]

Let me clarify slightly.

I really like the Desmond character and I'm actually quite interested in his background (as opposed to that of the Others). However, considering where the show is at this point, I don't really think they can afford to continue these lengthy, episode-long back stories, at least not until they tie up some loose ends.

Did you notice how much of the episode was spent in flashback mode? I think they stayed in his flashback through 2, maybe 3, commercial breaks--highly unusual for Lost. Usually we get to see more island action and less flashback.

Hmm...does this mean that the less-frequent island scenes in this episode were actually the flashbacks and Desmond trying to make different choices in his life was actually the present/future?

My head's starting to hurt. This is why I hate time travel stuff.

 

[Richards]

This episode reminded me a lot of Slaughterhouse Five, with Billy Pilgrim getting "unstuck in time."

And nobody's mentioned Penny's father yet! What a bastard! That whole deal with the "you're not even worth this swallow of alcohol" thing made me hate him beyond redemption, and really feel for Desmond.

Desmond's a good character. I hope they keep him on.

Johnathan

 

[Cthulhudrew]

A while back I posted that I had re-watched season two all at once, and it was a lot better than I had remembered it being. I'm beginning to think that the Lost crew is "writing for the trades," or in this case, the DVDs. The effect is the same - individual episodes dealing with the overall arc are very empty, but watched as a whole aren't quite as bad.

I think you'll find this is pretty much true of any sort of serialized storytelling- tv, fiction, whatever. It's always going to read/play more coherently as a whole than split up. It's just that the nature of television seasons make it all the more apparent- the several week/month delay due to mid-season always breaks things up, especially piled upon the already week break between episodes.

I remember not liking Buffy Season 3 much when I first saw it, but when I watched the entire season back to back on dvd, it quickly became one of my overall favorite seasons of that show.

So I wouldn't personally agree that the writers are decompressing the storyline any more than they would for any other tv show of a similar serialized nature.

 

[Cthulhudrew]

And nobody's mentioned Penny's father yet! What a bastard! That whole deal with the "you're not even worth this swallow of alcohol" thing made me hate him beyond redemption, and really feel for Desmond.

I really like that actor, but I just couldn't get over his in and out accent.

BTW, is this the first time we've heard Desmond's last and middle names? (David Hume). Seems to me someone may have pointed it out in another thread, but I wasn't sure.

Another empiricist. When do we get a Berkeley?

 

[Banshee16]

I've never seen a show that spends so much time not advancing the plot at all. I like the Desmond character and all but what did his backstory have to do with answering any of the current questions? And now this "time travel" thing? Ugh.

Why is time travel assumed? They never revealed that that's what was going on. In fact, there's no evidence that it was anything other than a lucid dream while he was unconscious. The fact that the jewelry saleswoman knew about the island and all is, to me, even more proof that it was all in his head. She was a representation of his self-conscious....all that rubbish about pushing the button being the only important thing he does with his life, and all that.....easily could be the manifestations of internal self-doubt.

I still didn't really like the episode....way, way too much time being spent on background lately. I understand that the creators have said they're doing that because the feedback they're getting from fans is that's what they like the most...but c'mon. Maybe 2 minutes at the start of the show, and 3 at the end were all that took place in "real time".

Penny's father? Just about as subhuman a human being as they come. Utterly contemptible.

Banshee

 

[Taelorn76]

Waaaay back, during the doomed flight, Cindy stops in the plane's aisle and asks Jack how his drink is, he complains that it wasn't very strong, and she sneaks him an extra shot bottle or two.

Cindy was a flight attendant, not a Tailie passenger.

Double post