No Prebuff - Round 1 - Damage Rankings

[delph]

Hex is nice, but when you have bigger dip in rogue, you really want to have more ripostes. But hex is nice too.

 

[FrogReaver]

Hex is nice, but when you have bigger dip in rogue, you really want to have more ripostes. But hex is nice too.

We were talking about a fighter...

 

[FrogReaver]

Any ideas on what level to build for next?

 

[delph]

Any ideas on what level to build for next?

it could be anything. level 2 is well-going for Vuman War cleric, because he gets awesome feature in 2nd level. But many other classes have a good class feature on 3rd level. But 4th level will have feat (ASi) "for everyone" not just variant human...

 

[Esker]

Well, we've done builds for every other tier, so how about tier 3?

Level 11 Human Battlemaster: Archery Style, 20 DEX, Magic Initiate (Hex), Sharpshooter, Action Surge, Precision Attack

6 attacks x (3.5 + 5 + 10 + 3.5) = 22 / hit
2 * 3.5 = 7 add'l damage / crit
0.65 + 0.10 - 0.25 + 0.05 * 5.5 = 0.775 to-hit

6 * (0.775 * 22 + 0.05 * 7) = 104.4

(I know, technically you could run out of superiority dice before you run out of attacks, so the actual number but it's pretty unlikely (about 3% chance), wouldn't change the result that much, and accounting for it exactly makes the math a lot more complicated)

 

[FrogReaver]

Well, we've done builds for every other tier, so how about tier 3?

Level 11 Human Battlemaster: Archery Style, 20 DEX, Magic Initiate (Hex), Sharpshooter, Action Surge, Precision Attack

6 attacks x (3.5 + 5 + 10 + 3.5) = 22 / hit
2 * 3.5 = 7 add'l damage / crit
0.65 + 0.10 - 0.25 + 0.05 * 5.5 = 0.775 to-hit

6 * (0.775 * 22 + 0.05 * 7) = 104.4

(I know, technically you could run out of superiority dice before you run out of attacks, so the actual number but it's pretty unlikely (about 3% chance), wouldn't change the result that much, and accounting for it exactly makes the math a lot more complicated)

Personally I'd go ahead and remove the estimated 3% to make it 101.3

 

[FrogReaver]

Well, we've done builds for every other tier, so how about tier 3?

Level 11 Human Battlemaster: Archery Style, 20 DEX, Magic Initiate (Hex), Sharpshooter, Action Surge, Precision Attack

6 attacks x (3.5 + 5 + 10 + 3.5) = 22 / hit
2 * 3.5 = 7 add'l damage / crit
0.65 + 0.10 - 0.25 + 0.05 * 5.5 = 0.775 to-hit

6 * (0.775 * 22 + 0.05 * 7) = 104.4

(I know, technically you could run out of superiority dice before you run out of attacks, so the actual number but it's pretty unlikely (about 3% chance), wouldn't change the result that much, and accounting for it exactly makes the math a lot more complicated)

Just curious, why a 3.5 damage weapon?

 

[Esker]

Just curious, why a 3.5 damage weapon?

Oh, hah, because I started out with Xbow Expert, then realized Hex was better for the nova metric. So switch that to a longbow.

 

[FrogReaver]

Oh, hah, because I started out with Xbow Expert, then realized Hex was better for the nova metric. So switch that to a longbow.

It also will be pretty easy to add in +5.5 damage from damage maneuver on hit. That actually ups your damage considerably.

 

[delph]

I had one idea for 2nd level, but found I'm short in bonus actions.

VHuman Rogue, feat Charger -> move dash + attack action by BA +5 dmg, than cunning action, another dash, but hasn't next bonus attack (when I was founding it, I thought its "as part of dash you can make attack") ...

so have 2d8 + 16 (and if there will by some companion 2d6 by sneak) will be great, but now it's not. so hot...