TSR Now it’s WotC’s Turn: WotC Moves Against TSR3

I guess after you provoke somebody enough, they’ll eventually bite back. The company has begun trademark cancellation procedures against the newest TSR.

TSR3 briefly filed for a court declaration on Dec 7th as to their ownership of the TSR trademarks — with an IndieGoGo campaign to fund it — and then voluntarily dismissed it a couple of days later on Dec 9th.

This filing is dated Dec 6th, the day before TSR3 launched its campaign.

In WotC’s response, they cite fraud as one of the causes of action, alleging that TSR3 misled the trademark office in its original application.

Mike Dunford, on Twitter, breaks down the action.

TSR - TSR3.5 Voluntarily Dismisses Lawsuit

A lawsuit filed by TSR3 against D&D owners Wizards of the Coast a few days ago was voluntarily dismissed. Dismissal without prejudice means that the suit can be filed again. The suit lasted two days from the 7th to the 9th of December. The IndieGoGo fundraiser to fund it is still running...

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TSR - TSR3.5 Launches IndieGogo Campaign to "Stop" WotC

The latest in the TSR3 saga, which has gone quiet for a while, is a new IndieGoGo campaign launched to "stop Wizards of the Coast". They cite wrongful bullying of TSR, and refusal to answer requests that WotC show TSR "proof of their claims" (although the campaign page doesn't mention what those...

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[Deset Gled]

I'm getting ready to throw some shade for next week's OSR News Roundup:

I think the fact that NuTSR never shows up there by name is the most shade you could throw. No product; no mention.

 

[Weiley31]

The phrase that comes to mind is "lay the smack down".

You mean "Layeth the Smackdown."

 

[CleverNickName]

I keep checking, and that Legacy Content Disclaimer hasn't budged. It's been weeks, too. I'm beginning to wonder if they are ever going to stop Wizards of the Coast.

 

[qstor]

I keep checking, and that Legacy Content Disclaimer hasn't budged. It's been weeks, too. I'm beginning to wonder if they are ever going to stop Wizards of the Coast.

They can't the whole thing is baloney.

 

[adamantyr]

Yeah, that particular part is so unbelievably ludicrous I'm surprised Mel Brooks hasn't made a movie of it.

Even IF they somehow retain ownership of a trademark, that has absolutely NO relevance to products with the logo. They have NO control over products produced by the old TSR. WotC owns the copyright, period. You'd think a full-grown adult like Ernie would actually understand this.

 

[Umbran]

They can't the whole thing is baloney.

psst! He was being facetious.

 

[Emrico]

Yeah, that particular part is so unbelievably ludicrous I'm surprised Mel Brooks hasn't made a movie of it.

Even IF they somehow retain ownership of a trademark, that has absolutely NO relevance to products with the logo. They have NO control over products produced by the old TSR. WotC owns the copyright, period. You'd think a full-grown adult like Ernie would actually understand this.

To be fair, since Ernie seemed to think that Kickstarter taking their pre-agreed fees and taxes on the $ from the Marmoreal Tomb KS was tantamount to stealing, I wouldn't count on him to have any understanding of how trademarks and copyrights work and how they're not the same thing.

 

[Wilphe]

WotC owns the copyright, period. You'd think a full-grown adult like Ernie would actually understand this.

Ernie seems to think this descends by bloodline

Like he's in the Priory of Sion or something

 

[Faolyn]

You'd think a full-grown adult like Ernie would actually understand this.

It's "Children of Famous Parents" syndrome. You have a famous parent, you either do your own thing or you try desperately to take that fame for yourself. He's clearly doing the latter.

 

[adamantyr]

It's "Children of Famous Parents" syndrome. You have a famous parent, you either do your own thing or you try desperately to take that fame for yourself. He's clearly doing the latter.

Yeah, the Bledsaw's (both son and grandson) are the same with Judge's Guild. They are literally incapable of producing anything but reprints of their father/grandfather's work. And now of course nobody wants anything to do with them after they revealed their true selves.