Falcon and winter solider

[Stalker0]

I'm not sure they're going to spend that much more time rehashing the Blip.

As long as the Marvel machine makes money, they will continue to look for areas to make movies. And if people are interested in that 5 year period, they will as sure as shootin make tv shows and movies covering that area.

I am personally really hoping for a solid movie within that time period, because honestly it must have been horrific. This is civilization ending levels of devastation, entire infrastructures would have been lost. Mass depression and suicide, revivals of religious cults, talks of the rapture. the geopolitical landscape would change overnight, and concerns about nuclear strikes and "which country is responsible for this". The remaining avengers must have been insanely busy keeping various threats from exploding.

Quite frankly, the fact that things are decently back on track ONLY five years later is pretty crazy.

There are a million stories you could tell in such a time period.

 

[MarkB]

Ah. I'm wondering how many people who returned from the blip had no financial assets. Would all of the disappeared been treated as having died, and their assets distributed?

Bear in mind that they basically had died - they literally went up in smoke. And while Thanos's plan was initially known to only a few on Earth, I'd assume that it wasn't kept a secret. So yes, they'd be treated as having died.

Of course, the difficulty is telling apart those who died from people who simply went missing that day, or in the aftermath. The Snap left behind no remains with which to verify death, and establishing witnesses would be a rough task on even a fraction of the full scale of the deaths involved.

And I'm sure a lot of people actually did just go missing in the immediate wake of the Snap. Until the full truth got circulated, it must have looked to most people like some sort of super-virus or biological weapon going off. Anyone who survived the initial effects would probably have literally run to the hills in order to isolate themselves in case it was something they could catch, or a terrorist attack that might be repeated.

With a lot more space suddenly available, and plenty of fuel for paranoia, some of those people may not ever have returned to society at large, even if/when they learned what was actually the cause of it all.

 

[Umbran]

As long as the Marvel machine makes money, they will continue to look for areas to make movies. And if people are interested in that 5 year period, they will as sure as shootin make tv shows and movies covering that area.

But, planning and execution of movies and series uses years of development time. The movies that are coming up in 2021 - Black Widow, Shang Chi, Eternals, and Spider Man: No Way Home - all had their production in 2019 and 2020. Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness has started filming, and had it paused by covid. Thor: Love and Thunder is already filming. These plots are set and moving forward. The studio had, at best, a guess as to what the audience would find compelling, and are not taking out reaction to, say, Wandavision into account.

I don't expect the studio wants to have TV and movies particularly out of sync - so if the movie plots move on, you don't, another year later, expect a series to look backwards, especially at... legal questions of the Blip? That kind of detail has not been the hallmark of the MCU - heck, we had an entire movie based on conflict with the Sokovia Accords, and we don't even know what they cover in any detail!

 

[Stalker0]

But, planning and execution of movies and series uses years of development time. The movies that are coming up in 2021 - Black Widow, Shang Chi, Eternals, and Spider Man: No Way Home - all had their production in 2019 and 2020. Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness has started filming, and had it paused by covid. Thor: Love and Thunder is already filming. These plots are set and moving forward. The studio had, at best, a guess as to what the audience would find compelling, and are not taking out reaction to, say, Wandavision into account.

I don't expect the studio wants to have TV and movies particularly out of sync - so if the movie plots move on, you don't, another year later, expect a series to look backwards, especially at... legal questions of the Blip? That kind of detail has not been the hallmark of the MCU - heck, we had an entire movie based on conflict with the Sokovia Accords, and we don't even know what they cover in any detail!

Its a fair point about the movies, and I think the TV shows are probably a better vehicle to discuss those topics.

As for the desyncing, Captain Marvel and Captain America have already shown that they are willing to do movies in different time periods.

So a tv show that consciously takes us back several years to that time I think is perfectly reasonable for the MCU.

Will they do it? Maybe not right away. But as the cash machine continues to chew through ideas, and they need new material, it seems a very reasonable area to tackle at some point.

 

[wicked cool]

It sort of feels like we are living in the blip right now.


quick question- Are we getting based on episode 1 of falcon another super hero? Feel like they hinted at based on the credits picture that there will be a 3rd hero in the series? Are the bad guys tied to hydra? the symbol we see on the walls a known comic symbol?

Back to Wanda vision-Monica will have the same super powers as captain marvel? Which one does rogue steal her powers from in the comics? are any of the other agents also potentail super heroes?

 

[MoonSong]

Back to Wanda vision-Monica will have the same super powers as captain marvel? Which one does rogue steal her powers from in the comics? are any of the other agents also potentail super heroes?

It happened to Carol.

 

[Umbran]

quick question- Are we getting based on episode 1 of falcon another super hero? Feel like they hinted at based on the credits picture that there will be a 3rd hero in the series?

Expect to see Agent Sharon Carter (aka Agent-13), former agent of SHIELD, and in the MCU the grand-niece of Peggy Carter. Remember in The Winter Soldier, the woman Steve Rogers sees in his apartment building, doing her laundry. He chats with her, and there's some talk of him taking her out on a date? That's her. I don't know of any big-mane cameos. We'll see.

Are the bad guys tied to hydra? the symbol we see on the walls a known comic symbol?

Unlikely, but we shall see. That handprint symbol is new, I think. Expect to see a return of Baron Zemo, from Civil War as well.

Back to Wanda vision-Monica will have the same super powers as captain marvel?

We don't know. Probably something similar, but they play a little loose with powers sometimes.

Which one does rogue steal her powers from in the comics?

That would be Carol Danvers.

I expect that, if they give her a code name, Monica Rambeau will use Photon or Spectrum. And Kamala Khan will use Ms. Marvel.

 

[trappedslider]

Lets not talk about how he treats Sam's sister, not even being able to hide his contempt for her the whole time he doesn't actively behaves as if she wasn't there.

Maybe that was because she is a she and not because racism? I know a few woman who don't call the auto service department because of how they are treated simply because they are woman.

Not everything is tied into racism....

It's really hard to treat famous people as actual people. "If you prick us do we not bleed? If you tickle us do we not laugh? If you poison us do we not die?"

If ever episode's after talk is gonna go into "is every action racism related or not" I'm not sure i wanna keep talking about the show here. I mean at that point we're going to have to consider every interaction that Bucky has with Sam. Since Bucky was born in 1917.

 

[meltdownpass]

Jumps into thread
Immediately sees thread derailed by hateful ideology
Slowly backs away

 

[GreyLord]

Bear in mind that they basically had died - they literally went up in smoke. And while Thanos's plan was initially known to only a few on Earth, I'd assume that it wasn't kept a secret. So yes, they'd be treated as having died.

Of course, the difficulty is telling apart those who died from people who simply went missing that day, or in the aftermath. The Snap left behind no remains with which to verify death, and establishing witnesses would be a rough task on even a fraction of the full scale of the deaths involved.

And I'm sure a lot of people actually did just go missing in the immediate wake of the Snap. Until the full truth got circulated, it must have looked to most people like some sort of super-virus or biological weapon going off. Anyone who survived the initial effects would probably have literally run to the hills in order to isolate themselves in case it was something they could catch, or a terrorist attack that might be repeated.

With a lot more space suddenly available, and plenty of fuel for paranoia, some of those people may not ever have returned to society at large, even if/when they learned what was actually the cause of it all.

Not only that, but how many actually literally died (and did not come back after the blip...like Gamora). We see a plane crashing and a helicopter pummeling into a building and such. Cars just run into each other. In theory, a LOT MORE died or disappeared than simply 1/2 due to the complications of people suddenly disappearing into dust in the middle of whatever it was they were doing.

It sort of feels like we are living in the blip right now.

In a way, you and me both. I can see how this equates. Perhaps next time Marvel wants a time jump ahead five years we need a bunch of superheroes to remember what happened this go around and stop them before it happens again.