D&D General Maybe I was ALWAYs playing 4e... even in 2e

[James Gasik]

It's not about hating on 5e, at least for me. D&D is a constantly evolving, changing beast. It can't remain the same forever, it will and has to change to survive. I don't see any reason why expressing sentiment about how it could evolve is bad for any discussion.

And maybe, like cetaceans, that survival could come via returning to the sea?

 

[GMforPowergamers]

"Let me talk you you about how many more people prefer McDolands to Michelin star restaurants in a thread about how someone enjoys gourmet food..."

it doesn't even need to be that diffrent
In a thread about liking whoppers more then big macs people are coming in to compain about those whopper likers taking up space in the big mac zone...

but I fear we are the mcrib lovers

 

[Vaalingrade]

Don't you have the books, pen and paper?


Sure. Because it bombed. It's not coming back, mate.

So the thread is about how someone says they were using 4e's design sensibilities and continues to use them in the current system and the obvious solution was to run in, tell him to play just 4e and rudely dump on 4e for no reason?

 

[GMforPowergamers]

Sure. Because it bombed. It's not coming back, mate.

maybe these threads can change that. Thank you for adding to the page/post count if a Dev comes and sees it though

 

[GMforPowergamers]

It's not about hating on 5e, at least for me.

I think 5e did do somethings better (concentration advantage/disadvantage) and some things different but i see potential (HD over HS) but also took WAY too many steps back to 3e.

 

[Vaalingrade]

You have to admire the tenacity to grind an axe for over a decade after you already won.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

You have to admire the tenacity to grind an axe for over a decade after you already won.

maybe he thinks I figured out the trick... he complaned through 4e and got 5e and now fears us getting 6e made for us.

 

[James Gasik]

Also, 4e "bombed" because WotC didn't pay attention to the desires of it's player base at the time, instead looking at overall trends of the moment.

Hot take: the desires of the player base are always changing. It could be that 4e was simply too ahead of it's time. We may never know...or maybe 6e will come out and bring back Move, Minor, Standard and AEUD. Or something completely different.

But the game will change. It's inevitable.

 

[Crimson Longinus]

"Let me talk you you about how many more people prefer McDolands to Michelin star restaurants in a thread about how someone enjoys gourmet food..."

Ah yes. "I'm the sophisticated connoisseur unlike you plebs" argument. Classic.

Michelin star restaurants are hella rare and usually pretty damn expensive. So of course far fever people frequent them. But this is not like that, 4e's position in its time was similar to the other editions. And it bombed.

So the thread is about how someone says they were using 4e's design sensibilities and continues to use them in the current system and the obvious solution was to run in, tell him to play just 4e and rudely dump on 4e for no reason?

I'm simply wondering why not use the real deal rather than try to hack an edition one doesn't like to be a bit like it.

 

[Vaalingrade]

I'm simply wondering why not use the real deal rather than try to hack an edition one doesn't like to be a bit like it.

And the ongoing rudeness?