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[+] The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power - SPOILERS ALLOWED

Whizbang Dustyboots

Gnometown Hero
I’m trying to recall. What was Halbrand/Sauron’s actual role in the unlocking of the dam/exploding Mt Doom? Wasn’t that the machinations of Adar, who is apparently his enemy?
Given that the map rune was found all over wherever Sauron traveled, it presumably was his plan first and after Adar stabbed him (or whatever), he said "well, this plan is still good; we're doing that for my baby boys."
 
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Whizbang Dustyboots

Gnometown Hero
My wife (who has read zero of LotR, but enjoyed all the movies) and I really liked this.

I thought this show probably made halflings cooler than any TV or movie has to date and, for once, we weren't eager to get the elves off-screen (although they're still the most tiresome bunch, clearly even to each other) and the dwarves were, by far, the big standouts.

The show was a nice corrective to other LotR material by having a lot of heroic women, ranging from Galadriel to Bronwyn, whose heroism is all the more impressive given that she's a level 1 commoner and not a Tier 4 PC showing a lot of patience around everyone else.

I especially liked the portrayal of Galadriel. It is rare that we are allowed to see a woman just simmering with barely contained rage in nearly every scene the way we do Galadriel (I could probably name 30 or 40 male characters like this without breaking a sweat, of course). And while she's reckless and brash for an elf, compared to everyone else, she is stately and contained, and the actress managed to convey both elements at all times.

Likewise, I thought the expansion of skin tones and ethnicities for LotR was great, although the moment we had one Pacific Islander-looking actor (given where they filmed this, he's probably Maori) made me realize making all of Numenor played by Pacific Islanders would have been amazing.

Even when they skimped on things (Lindon is apparently three rooms, the show having apparently spent all of its setting budget on Numenor), the show looked and sounded like a million bucks. (Considerably more than that, actually.) And Fiona Apple's sung version of the poem at the end was as good as any of the vocal songs in the LotR movies and feels very in keeping with them.

I liked most of the stuff invented for this story, particularly Adar, the Kilmonger of this show.

For the second season, I want much, much more dwarves, I'm excited to see Rhun, and I want to see some freaking ent-wives. They teased ents in the first episode, and nothing since. Ent-wives or we riot!
 

Rabulias

the Incomparably Shrewd and Clever
I’m trying to recall. What was Halbrand/Sauron’s actual role in the unlocking of the dam/exploding Mt Doom? Wasn’t that the machinations of Adar, who is apparently his enemy?
I think this applies in a much more abstract sense, though this might be over-analysis and reaching a bit on my part. I think the hilt was invested with part of Sauron's essence long ago in the making of this plan, but when Morgoth was defeated, humans loyal to Sauron took the hilt and kept it hidden, passing it (and its importance) down through the generations until it ends up in Waldreg's barn. This goes back to the name Halbrand meaning "half-sword," meaning Halbrand is the remainder of Sauron left after he poured some of himself into the swordhilt. In a sense it was Sauron that unlocked the dam, just not the part that is manifested in Halbrand's form.

As far as Adar, he could be a true believer and working a deep-cover long-con for Sauron, but I doubt it. I believe his story about killing Sauron (or at least he attempted it and believes he succeeded) due to Halbrand's anger at Adar when he has Adar on the ground about to kill him. Adar and Sauron may be at odds themselves, but they both want a homeland for orcs. I could see season 2 showing some factional infighting between Adar and Sauron, trying to sway orcs to their side in the newborn land of Mordor.
 

Rabulias

the Incomparably Shrewd and Clever
The show was a nice corrective to other LotR material by having a lot of heroic women, ranging from Galadriel to Bronwyn, whose heroism is all the more impressive given that she's a level 1 commoner and not a Tier 4 PC showing a lot of patience around everyone else.

I especially liked the portrayal of Galadriel. It is rare that we are allowed to see a woman just simmering with barely contained rage in nearly every scene the way we do Galadriel (I could probably name 30 or 40 male characters like this without breaking a sweat, of course). And while she's reckless and brash for an elf, compared to everyone else, she is stately and contained, and the actress managed to convey both elements at all times.
Agreed. And to those who complain that Galadriel is presented as too perfect and can do no wrong, I point to the fact that despite her success and prowess, it was in fact her that saved Sauron, inspired him to reach for more, and facilitated his return. That's a pretty big screw up in my book.
 


Whizbang Dustyboots

Gnometown Hero
Agreed. And to those who complain that Galadriel is presented as too perfect and can do no wrong, I point to the fact that despite her success and prowess, it was in fact her that saved Sauron, inspired him to reach for more, and facilitated his return. That's a pretty big screw up in my book.
Yeah, like I said when she jumped off a ship in the middle of the ocean and just started swimming toward Middle-Earth, hundreds of miles away, she is a mythic character, doing mythic things, including having the kind of failings only heroes of Greek myth, Beowulf and the like can have.
 



Did I hear correctly that the gems used in the elven rings contained a bit of the essence of the Valar?

Celebrimbor was talking about the Silmarils, who had a bit of the essence of Valinor (the light of the Trees, actually), and he hoped to use the three gems to make the same thing, ie capture the essence of Middle Earth. [After all, creating the Silmarils ended up such a GREAT idea that his grandson is keen to emulate Feänor....]
 

MarkB

Legend
I guess they ended up being a little bit of everything. Gems from Middle Earth, mithril infused with elven light (and perhaps balrog darkness), and metals from Valinor.
 

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