Enterprise 11-19-04


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I wish they would focus less on the races we already know a lot about and give us more about the many races of which we have only heard their names (or less). If the show is going to continue to decline in the ratings, I'd rather that they take some chances and not recycle plotlines from the movies. I do, however, like the mini-arc concept.
 

In regards to ratings...

...does Everyday Joe's watching them make a difference or is it the "nielsen people" that still make that scale for TV? I was not sure if cable (cable box/lines) technology had come to the point of them being able to signal what people were watching.

Just curious.
 


Volaran said:
Was there not also a proto-Romulan reference in the episode? Mentioning the last opponents of Surak being "those who marched under the raptor's wings" or something like that, with the symbol of the symbol of the Romulan empire being a raptor grasping the twin homeworlds.

That could be. I'm not sure what was meant by that, or if it will be later explained. But I think it may very well be a reference to the Romulans. The Romulans after all, left Vulcan after rejecting the teachings of Surak. The Romulan symbol is that of a bird of prey grasping Romulus and Remus in its talons, and look at the names of Romulan starships: Romulan Bird of Prey, Romulan Warbird. It was a very interesting line, that's for sure.
 

myrdden said:
As long as it doesn't become "How else can we slip in a nod to past episodes/movies this week?", I'm fine with it. I just think they're being a tad too obvious about it, which if it continues on it'll become farcical.

I see it differently: they're actually paying attention to established Trek lore for a change and using it consistantly. Yeah, I know that's not typical of Trek, Trek loves to make things up as they go along and retcon like hell. In fact , Eneterprise was critisized in the early seasons for screwing up a lot of Trek continuity. This episode was exactly the opposite because it took established facts about the Vulcans and worked with them, expanded them without greatly contradicting them.
 

Mark said:
I wish they would focus less on the races we already know a lot about and give us more about the many races of which we have only heard their names (or less). If the show is going to continue to decline in the ratings, I'd rather that they take some chances and not recycle plotlines from the movies. I do, however, like the mini-arc concept.

But there's another way of looking at it; if they're trying to boost ratings they do so by writing stories involving the big draws of the Trek universe. Hence this Vulcan storyline during sweeps. Vulcans have long been one of the most popular Trek races, and they're also a Trek element known to people who maybe are casual fans or who don't watch Star Trek much. So they do a storyline that will probably grab the attention of as many viewers as possible. This is probably written with both the die hard fan and Trek newbie in mind.

Sure I'd like to see more stuff with Andorians, Tellarites and so on, but they're a little more obscure. There's really familiar only to the really die hard Trek fans who got hooked on TOS (remember they weren't used at all during the height of TNG). When the situation is getting desperate with rating, you got to pull out the big guns.
 

FCWesel said:
In regards to ratings...

...does Everyday Joe's watching them make a difference or is it the "nielsen people" that still make that scale for TV? I was not sure if cable (cable box/lines) technology had come to the point of them being able to signal what people were watching.

Just curious.

The way I understand, TVs in the really big markets like NY, LA, etc. automatically record the ratings data. In smaller markets though, they rely on people who keep diaries of their TV watching patterns.
 
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