D&D Movie/TV D&D: Honor Among Thieves Open Discussion [Full Spoilers]

[Mad_Jack]

The wife isn't very fleshed out but also isn't just a plot point - her death does change Edgin, but like... death of loved ones does that.

Yeah, that's about what I figured, lol. Given the things I've read about the film and the people making it, I really didn't think they'd drop the ball so hard on some minor aspect of it.

 

[pogre]

Just got back from the theater and I was pleasantly surprised by how much I enjoyed the movie.

I was particularly pleased that the script writers did not shackle themselves too closely to the rules or lore.

I don't go to the movies much, but the D&D movie had more verisimilitude than the Fast & Furious preview.

 

[pukunui]

Interestingly they specifically called him out as not-immortal in the movie, but rather slow-aging because the undead assassin guy was like "Yo Xenk you look older than when I last saw you!". The description in the DDB bit for him also calls him out as slow-aging.

Good point. Slow-aging it is then.

Yeah the whole thing ran much more like Dungeon World than D&D 5E, that's for sure. And honestly I don't think D&D would be harmed much by loosening up a lot of that stuff.

Interesting. I might just have to look more into Dungeon World, as I didn't know it was more loose with resource management stuff.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

I found an article (definitely click-bait-y) that basically called out the film for using a "problematic trope", which turned out to be them claiming that the only "characterization" Edgin's wife had was that she was dead and only mentioned to justify the plot. Which supposedly doesn't do the film any favors.
Now, obviously, the movie isn't going to spend a huge amount of time fleshing out a secondary character who's already dead when the story starts (I haven't seen it yet, so I'm assuming they don't devote a flashback to her death?), but I am curious... Is the wife really just a cardboard cut-out with a "Hi, my name is...<Plot Point>" sticker on her?

Not really, although the home lives of all the characters are weirdly idyllic. All of their communities look like something from Disneyland.

 

[Maxperson]

?

Must be an American thing.

Yep! We just loooooove to dilute the word hero by calling people heroes for every little thing.

 

[pukunui]

Did I just miss it or did the scene from the trailers where Holga and Edgin talk about discussing something over a drink get cut from the film?

 

[Hussar]

Yeah, that's about what I figured, lol. Given the things I've read about the film and the people making it, I really didn't think they'd drop the ball so hard on some minor aspect of it.

Not really. She appears repeatedly in flashbacks. Sure, she's not an adventurer, but, fair enough. Not every adventurer has to be married to another adventurer. The fact that Edgin takes personal responsibility for her death is a major character moment. Look, I'm all for criticism and all that, but, I'm honestly, really, not seeing it. Like, at all.

 

[Iosue]

Yeah, that's about what I figured, lol. Given the things I've read about the film and the people making it, I really didn't think they'd drop the ball so hard on some minor aspect of it.

Context matters. If Edgin went on this adventure with a party of all male adventurers, and the only other female characters, if any, were his damsel-in-distress daughter and a thinly motivated villain, then sure the movie could and should be called out for a lack of female characters with real characterization. But when you have two other prominent female characters, neither of whom are defined by their relationship with Edgin, then I think you’re allowed to have a tragic backstory wife.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Did I just miss it or did the scene from the trailers where Holga and Edgin talk about discussing something over a drink get cut from the film?

We demand an 18 hour directors cut!

 

[UngeheuerLich]

Did I just miss it or did the scene from the trailers where Holga and Edgin talk about discussing something over a drink get cut from the film?

Thought so too...