TSR The Full & Glorious History of NuTSR

Because the Saga of TSR3 has been ongoing for a while, with many landmarks, I thought I'd do a quick timeline for those who haven't had the time (or, frankly, inclination) to keep up with the whole palaver. As multiple entities refer to themselves as TSR, I will use the nomenclature (1), (2) etc. to distinguish them. However, all the companies below simply use the term "TSR". The principle...

Because the Saga of TSR3 has been ongoing for a while, with many landmarks, I thought I'd do a quick timeline for those who haven't had the time (or, frankly, inclination) to keep up with the whole palaver.

As multiple entities refer to themselves as TSR, I will use the nomenclature (1), (2) etc. to distinguish them. However, all the companies below simply use the term "TSR".

The principle people involved with this story are Ernie Gygax (one of Gary Gygax's children), Justin LaNasa (a tattooist, weapon designer, and briefly a politician who refers to himself as Sir Justin LaNasa*), Stephen Dinehart (co-creator of Giantlands with James Ward), and -- later -- Michael K. Hovermale, TSR3's PR officer.

Also linked to TSR3 is the Dungeon Hobby Shop Museum in Lake Geneva, Wisconsin. Much of TSR3’s commercial business appears to be conducted via the museum.

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  • Late June 2021. TSR3 embarks on an astonishing social media campaign where they tell people who don't like Gary Gygax not to play D&D, call a trans person on Twitter 'disgusting', thank the 'woke' because sales are up, insult Luke Gygax, and more. They also block or insult those who question them on Twitter.
  • Late June 2021. Various companies distance themselves from TSR3, including Gen Con, TSR2 (who rebrand themselves Solarian Games), GAMA, and various individuals such as Luke Gygax, Tim Kask, Jeff Dee, and more. TSR3 responds to being banned from Gen Con by claiming that they created the convention.
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  • June 30th 2021. TSR3 blames the widespread pushback it is getting on WotC, accusing it of mounting a coordinated assault on them. In the same tweets they claim that they created the TTRPG business. Ernie Gygax and Stephen Dinehart then deactivate their Twitter accounts. Months later it transpires that this is the date they received a C&D from WotC regarding their use of their IP.
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  • December 11th 2021. The president of the Gygax Memorial fund publicly declares that they were never consulted, and would refuse any donation from TSR3's crowdfunding campaign. TSR3 quietly removes the references to the GMF from the IndieGoGo page.
  • December 29th 2021. TSR3.5 refiles its lawsuit, this time in the correct jurisdiction. LaNasa and TSR ask for a trial by Jury.
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  • January 8th 2020. Wonderfiled[sic]'s Stephen Dinehart threatens to sue Twitter user David Flor for his negative review of Giantlands on the platform.
  • January 10th 2022. TSR3's Justin LaNasa sends TSR alumn Tim Kask a profane message, telling him to "Go suck Lukes/wotc/balls you f*****g coward" and accusing him of having been fired from TSR for stealing.
  • January 11th 2022. Michael K Hovermale claims that the first edition of TSR3's Star Frontiers: New Genesis game was released and has sold out. He says “It was a very small limited run released and sold on the DHSM [Dungeon Hobby Shop Museum] website. It is no longer available, and probably won’t be reprinted.” As yet, nobody has publicly revealed that they bought a copy.
  • January 14th 2022. Michael K. Hovermale resigns as TSR3's Chief Creative Officer and Public Relations Officer after 6 months in the position.
  • March 4th 2022. WotC strikes back with a lawsuit naming TSR, Justin LaNasa personally, and the Dungeon Hobby Shop museum. WotC seeks a judgement that TSR hand over all domains, take down all websites, pay treble damages and costs, hand over all stock and proceeds related to the trademarks, and more. TSR has 21 days to respond.
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  • March 22nd 2022. TSR gets an extension on that WoTC suit. Two waivers of service of summons granted to both Justin LaNasa and the Dungeon Hobby Shop Museum. He now has 60 days from March 4th to serve an answer or motion, or suffer default judgment.
  • March 26th 2022. TSR CON takes place at the same time as Gary Con. TSR claims " lol, actually we asked just about every one of the 800 people stopping by, TSR CON, and about 60% had no idea Gary con was going on, and we tried pushing them to go over and attend."
  • March 28th 2022. TSR3 posts images of 'rebound' copies of AD&D 1E books it is selling for $650 each.
  • May 17th 2022. Evidence emerges of Nazi connections via TSR3's Dave Johnson. Public Twitter posts include concentrated hateful imagery and messages over a long period of time.
  • May 17th 2022. DriveThruRPG removes all Dave Johnson Games titles from the platform.
  • May 17th 2022. A jury trial date is set for the TSR/WotC lawsuit for October 2023 (few suits like this actually make it to trial in the end).
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  • July 19th 2022. A leaked version of a beta version of TSR's 'Star Frontiers: New Genesis' game emerges on the internet. The content includes racist and white-supremacist propaganda, including character races with ability caps based on ethnicity, and various homophobic and transphobic references. Justin LaNasa immediately threatened to sue blogger Eric Tenkar, who shared the information publicly ('Mario Real' is one of LaNasa's online pseudonyms). Various evidence points towards the document's genuine nature, including an accidentally revealed Google drive belonging to NuTSR.
  • July 22nd 2022. A video shows a Google Drive that appears to be owned by nuTSR, which contains a list of enemies of the company, usually with the word "WOKE" in caps being used as a pejorative.
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(screenshot courtesy of the @nohateingaming Twitter account)

  • August 30th 2022. Wizard Tower Games announces that they have received a subpeona from WotC regarding TSR and Justin LaNasa. Former NuTSR employee Michaal K Hovermale confirms that he has also received a subpeona.
  • September 5th 2022. Justin LaNasa sends out customer data, including addresses and credit card numbers. LaNasa responds by publicly claiming the evidence is photoshopped and slandering those who revealed it as liars.
  • September 8th 2022. WoTC files an injunction to prevent LaNasa or his companies from “publishing, distributing, or otherwise making available Star Frontiers New Genesis or any iteration of the game using the Marks”.
  • June 8th 2023. NuTSR files for bankruptcy. The case between WotC and NuTSR is postponed until March 2024.

Have I missed anything important? I'll continue updating this as I remember things, or as people remind me of things!

To the best of my knowledge, TSR3 is not actually selling any type of gaming product.

*if anybody has any link to LaNasa's knighthood, please let me know!

Websites
Various websites have come and gone. I'll try to make some sense of it here so you know what site you're actually visiting!
  • TSR.com is the original TSR website. For a long time it redirected to WotC. The URL is no longer in use. (WotC)
  • TSRgames.com was TSR2 until summer 2021. The site is still running, although TSR2 is now called Solarian Games. (Jayson Elliot)
  • TSR.games was TSR3 until summer 2021. It now goes to Wonderfiled(sic)'s website. (Stephen Dinehart)
  • TSR-hobbies.com is TSR 3.5, launched summer 2021 by Justin LaNasa and Ernie Gygax. (Justin LaNasa)
 

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I'm pretty sure that's not how Creative Commons works.
Correct. All Creative Commons licenses specifically waive the right to revoke the license for anything but a breach of the specific license (example, if you're require to attribute - and you don't attribute). They specifically include that you waive "moral rights" but those aren't recognized in the United States.

Even in places where they are, it would have to be something which would be understood to be shocking to the politics/sensibilities of the creator - you can't just invoke them because you find the person is a Reylo or you think think it hurts your brand in hindsight.

Hell, it's not even how perpetual works.
This was a thing that came up on the OGL drama - and perpetual can be interpreted to purely time related... not irrevocable.

I'm predicting DaveJ's gonna latch on to that CC license and churn out a dozen AI-written adventures within the week.
Also probably some stories on Kindle Vella and Amazon print-on-demand.
 

Mannahnin

Scion of Murgen (He/Him)
OK, I think you know that literally everything on the Chaos list that isn't underlined ended up being evil in later editions. I managed to find some pdfs of what I think is the one you're copying from above (blue, edited by Holmes?), which says Chaos is often evil, as well as a pdf of the Red Box set, which says that Chaos is basically synonymous with evil.
The page I just showed you, as I said, is from the 1974 original D&D set (Holmes is from three years later). The original rules have Orcs in the Neutral and Chaotic columns. It's one of the underlined entries.

I'm not disputing that Chaotic was often treated as synonymous with evil. I'm just pointing out two things. 1) Orcs when they originally appeared were both under Neutral and Chaotic. 2) Orcs have never, in any edition of D&D that I'm aware of, been "always evil".

Oh, and now that you make me re-read, your assertions about evil and Detect Evil in AD&D are incorrect too. "back in AD&D, there wasn't any easy way to distinguish between fundamentally evil, like a demon, and evil-by-culture, like an orc (both would ping to a detect evil spell)." No. A demon or undead pings for detect evil, per page 60 of the DMG (Detection of Evil and Good) and an orc would not, as they're not an inherently evil magical creature. Regular living creatures don't ping for Detect Evil unless they're at least 8th level/HD, very strong in their alignment, and currently intent on actions within that alignment. Know Alignment picks up Evil more easily, but still "it must be a great evil or a strong good to be detected."

Anyway, this is all a tangent. My intent is just to point out that these guys' take on orcs is not very well supported by the original texts in the first place. Frickin' Gary in the 70s had a more nuanced take on alignment than "Detect Evil and kill 'em all", as these guys seem to think is the "trve authentic old school grognard way".

It's not.
 
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"Real men" is a weird flex for a guy in the business* of imaginary elf orcz games.
It is, at the very least, on-brand for the hobby. Who here hasn't run into someone clearly trying to establish their manliness by advocating for a specific TTRPG/edition/playstyle/dedication to some goal like ('realism' or 'rules as written')/etc. over the other options?
And you know that they were almost never actually written as anything other than evil. So it honestly doesn't matter if the game's rules say "you don't have to make orcs evil" if the game never shows it and instead goes out of their way to show how terrible they are. Seriously. How many times has there been any serious attempt in the game books to show orcs were even just neutral? Because that has a ton more weight than any minor reference in a monster book that #notallorcs.

Hell, there's an orc in the Realms, Obould Many-Arrows, who managed to unite his people, using his intelligence in part, and founded a great orcish kingdom that was generally at peace with its human/elf neighbors and that even traded with them, and he still had the alignment of Chaotic Evil, which was the main orc alignment in 3e. They couldn't even bother to make him Lawful Evil.
Isn't the later paragraph an example of the serious attempt mentioned in the former? It's showing an orc acting in an organized and peaceful way, and only fails in the labelling (as minor a reference as any #notallorcs statement).
 

Faolyn

(she/her)
Isn't the later paragraph an example of the serious attempt mentioned in the former? It's showing an orc acting in an organized and peaceful way, and only fails in the labelling (as minor a reference as any #notallorcs statement).
See, I'd agree, but the labeling is important, at least back in 3.x, when alignments themselves were of far more importance. In the (too many) arguments I've had here about alignment, many, many people have said that (even now, in 5e) they rely on alignment to tell them how to run the monster--and many have said that they don't want to have to read a block of text, or even a few lines of text like the "personality/ideals/bonds/flaws" bits you get in PC backgrounds. They want the personality described in two words: "chaotic" and "evil." Some were even iffy on changing alignment to motivation as per Cypher System: "Motivation: Curious" or "Motivation: Hungers for fresh meat." I have to assume there are people not on these boards who feel the same way, so all that cultural information? Good, but completely wasted on a chunk of gamers, all because whoever wrote up his stats didn't bother to think about his alignment or the alignment of the orcs he ruled.

But anyway: tangent. I'm not answering to this one again.
 




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