TSR The Full & Glorious History of NuTSR

Because the Saga of TSR3 has been ongoing for a while, with many landmarks, I thought I'd do a quick timeline for those who haven't had the time (or, frankly, inclination) to keep up with the whole palaver. As multiple entities refer to themselves as TSR, I will use the nomenclature (1), (2) etc. to distinguish them. However, all the companies below simply use the term "TSR". The principle...

Because the Saga of TSR3 has been ongoing for a while, with many landmarks, I thought I'd do a quick timeline for those who haven't had the time (or, frankly, inclination) to keep up with the whole palaver.

As multiple entities refer to themselves as TSR, I will use the nomenclature (1), (2) etc. to distinguish them. However, all the companies below simply use the term "TSR".

The principle people involved with this story are Ernie Gygax (one of Gary Gygax's children), Justin LaNasa (a tattooist, weapon designer, and briefly a politician who refers to himself as Sir Justin LaNasa*), Stephen Dinehart (co-creator of Giantlands with James Ward), and -- later -- Michael K. Hovermale, TSR3's PR officer.

Also linked to TSR3 is the Dungeon Hobby Shop Museum in Lake Geneva, Wisconsin. Much of TSR3’s commercial business appears to be conducted via the museum.

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  • Late June 2021. TSR3 embarks on an astonishing social media campaign where they tell people who don't like Gary Gygax not to play D&D, call a trans person on Twitter 'disgusting', thank the 'woke' because sales are up, insult Luke Gygax, and more. They also block or insult those who question them on Twitter.
  • Late June 2021. Various companies distance themselves from TSR3, including Gen Con, TSR2 (who rebrand themselves Solarian Games), GAMA, and various individuals such as Luke Gygax, Tim Kask, Jeff Dee, and more. TSR3 responds to being banned from Gen Con by claiming that they created the convention.
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  • June 30th 2021. TSR3 blames the widespread pushback it is getting on WotC, accusing it of mounting a coordinated assault on them. In the same tweets they claim that they created the TTRPG business. Ernie Gygax and Stephen Dinehart then deactivate their Twitter accounts. Months later it transpires that this is the date they received a C&D from WotC regarding their use of their IP.
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  • December 11th 2021. The president of the Gygax Memorial fund publicly declares that they were never consulted, and would refuse any donation from TSR3's crowdfunding campaign. TSR3 quietly removes the references to the GMF from the IndieGoGo page.
  • December 29th 2021. TSR3.5 refiles its lawsuit, this time in the correct jurisdiction. LaNasa and TSR ask for a trial by Jury.
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  • January 8th 2020. Wonderfiled[sic]'s Stephen Dinehart threatens to sue Twitter user David Flor for his negative review of Giantlands on the platform.
  • January 10th 2022. TSR3's Justin LaNasa sends TSR alumn Tim Kask a profane message, telling him to "Go suck Lukes/wotc/balls you f*****g coward" and accusing him of having been fired from TSR for stealing.
  • January 11th 2022. Michael K Hovermale claims that the first edition of TSR3's Star Frontiers: New Genesis game was released and has sold out. He says “It was a very small limited run released and sold on the DHSM [Dungeon Hobby Shop Museum] website. It is no longer available, and probably won’t be reprinted.” As yet, nobody has publicly revealed that they bought a copy.
  • January 14th 2022. Michael K. Hovermale resigns as TSR3's Chief Creative Officer and Public Relations Officer after 6 months in the position.
  • March 4th 2022. WotC strikes back with a lawsuit naming TSR, Justin LaNasa personally, and the Dungeon Hobby Shop museum. WotC seeks a judgement that TSR hand over all domains, take down all websites, pay treble damages and costs, hand over all stock and proceeds related to the trademarks, and more. TSR has 21 days to respond.
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  • March 22nd 2022. TSR gets an extension on that WoTC suit. Two waivers of service of summons granted to both Justin LaNasa and the Dungeon Hobby Shop Museum. He now has 60 days from March 4th to serve an answer or motion, or suffer default judgment.
  • March 26th 2022. TSR CON takes place at the same time as Gary Con. TSR claims " lol, actually we asked just about every one of the 800 people stopping by, TSR CON, and about 60% had no idea Gary con was going on, and we tried pushing them to go over and attend."
  • March 28th 2022. TSR3 posts images of 'rebound' copies of AD&D 1E books it is selling for $650 each.
  • May 17th 2022. Evidence emerges of Nazi connections via TSR3's Dave Johnson. Public Twitter posts include concentrated hateful imagery and messages over a long period of time.
  • May 17th 2022. DriveThruRPG removes all Dave Johnson Games titles from the platform.
  • May 17th 2022. A jury trial date is set for the TSR/WotC lawsuit for October 2023 (few suits like this actually make it to trial in the end).
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  • July 19th 2022. A leaked version of a beta version of TSR's 'Star Frontiers: New Genesis' game emerges on the internet. The content includes racist and white-supremacist propaganda, including character races with ability caps based on ethnicity, and various homophobic and transphobic references. Justin LaNasa immediately threatened to sue blogger Eric Tenkar, who shared the information publicly ('Mario Real' is one of LaNasa's online pseudonyms). Various evidence points towards the document's genuine nature, including an accidentally revealed Google drive belonging to NuTSR.
  • July 22nd 2022. A video shows a Google Drive that appears to be owned by nuTSR, which contains a list of enemies of the company, usually with the word "WOKE" in caps being used as a pejorative.
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(screenshot courtesy of the @nohateingaming Twitter account)

  • August 30th 2022. Wizard Tower Games announces that they have received a subpeona from WotC regarding TSR and Justin LaNasa. Former NuTSR employee Michaal K Hovermale confirms that he has also received a subpeona.
  • September 5th 2022. Justin LaNasa sends out customer data, including addresses and credit card numbers. LaNasa responds by publicly claiming the evidence is photoshopped and slandering those who revealed it as liars.
  • September 8th 2022. WoTC files an injunction to prevent LaNasa or his companies from “publishing, distributing, or otherwise making available Star Frontiers New Genesis or any iteration of the game using the Marks”.
  • June 8th 2023. NuTSR files for bankruptcy. The case between WotC and NuTSR is postponed until March 2024.

Have I missed anything important? I'll continue updating this as I remember things, or as people remind me of things!

To the best of my knowledge, TSR3 is not actually selling any type of gaming product.

*if anybody has any link to LaNasa's knighthood, please let me know!

Websites
Various websites have come and gone. I'll try to make some sense of it here so you know what site you're actually visiting!
  • TSR.com is the original TSR website. For a long time it redirected to WotC. The URL is no longer in use. (WotC)
  • TSRgames.com was TSR2 until summer 2021. The site is still running, although TSR2 is now called Solarian Games. (Jayson Elliot)
  • TSR.games was TSR3 until summer 2021. It now goes to Wonderfiled(sic)'s website. (Stephen Dinehart)
  • TSR-hobbies.com is TSR 3.5, launched summer 2021 by Justin LaNasa and Ernie Gygax. (Justin LaNasa)
 

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Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
As an Indie publisher, you can bet I'm paying attention and not pleased with LaNasa. Because depending on how all this shakes out, WoTC very well could say, "You know what, we tried to be nice by releasing an OGL and SRD. But y'all just had to go try and ruin the intent behind it, so we're pulling it. Done. This is why we can't have nice things."

so yeah, there is a chance LaNasa can be ruining it for everyone, and that absolutely deserves attention and discussion.
They can't pull the OGL. It's irrevocable. That's the whole point of it.
 

Mistwell

Crusty Old Meatwad (he/him)
I agree with Snarf on this one - you are implying that faith in a nation state that's been around for centuries and faith in a technology that's been around since 2008 are the same.

They really aren't. The highly volatile value of cryptocurrency in comparison to other currencies rather proves that. Reliable things, that one should have faith in, typically have fairly stable values.
I can't speak for NFTs or some forms of Crypto Currency. But I can say Bitcoin has had fairly stable valuations which are, oddly enough, very linked to stock market performance. My ordinary stocks go up and down virtually identically to my BitCoin (of which I own very little by the way). There are numerous articles on that topic from financial papers, and here is one showing that Bitcoin moves in tandem with the S&P 500. I've never heard anyone describe the S&P 500 in the same terms people here are describing Crypto however. There is a good reason a lot of ordinary financial portfolios include a portion devoted to Bitcoin (and sometimes Ether), and it's not "highly volatile".


The persistent value of NFTs is even more suspect than that of cryptocurrency in general, for reasons noted below.



For the majority of collectibles, there's a population that aquires or collects them for purposes other than achieving monetary value. Like, people who buy Magic cards because they like playing the game, or folks who buy Funko Pops because they are memorabilia of their favorite media, or Beanie Babies being popular because kids happen to like small plush toys. Or folks who buy art because it is pretty.

Whether it is "intrinsic" isn't relevant, but whether there's any reason to have it other than the sale value is relevant.
A lot of people genuinely collect NFTs for the associated artwork and sometimes physical things which come with them. To say NFTs have no value because they're associated with digital artwork and that such digital artwork has no value because you could download it for free is pretty close to the "PDFs have no value because I can find them and download them for free" crowd. NFTs also come with a contract which is automatically triggered on transfer, and that often results in value which is other than the sale value as well. Over time I suspect it's that portion of the value which will become more important to industries over time.
 

Mistwell

Crusty Old Meatwad (he/him)
Yikes. I don't even know where to begin with this ageist nonsense.

I'll just speak for myself: I will not support NFTs or the companies that use them. You can call me old or ignorant, you can accuse me of hating new technology or not having faith, whatever. If shifting the blame helps you sleep at night, go for it. Just know that in the morning, I'm still not buying them.

Buying NFTs is not going to make me sound younger, more tech-savvy, or more educated. But it'll certainly make me less wealthy.
I am not saying or trying to imply that if you don't like or buy Crypto currencies or NFTs then that makes you old or ignorant. I was specifically saying the original post I was replying to which said all NFTs are scams is, to me, trending right along with prior historical views of new technology which were often generational in nature.

We saw that argument from Boomers and generations before them about a host of things which generations after that point use now in their daily lives as ordinary tech, which includes the thing you're reading these words on right now. I don't think it's ageist to say that, when some generations said personal computers or the internet or social media were fads and toys, they were wrong and failing to challenge their biases which were based on their experiences prior to that technology. There will come a point for Millennials where they reach an age where those biases apply to new technology. If you think that hasn't happened yet, fair enough. But, they're human. It will happen, at some point, as a generalization (which means there will be exceptions to the rule). And, like generations before that, many will deny it's happening as younger people see it as obvious that such biases are happening.

Whether NFTs are a fad or will be ongoing ordinary tech in the future is yet to be seen. I personally think they're here to stay, but we shall see. But I don't think Crypto currency itself as a concept is a fad, and I think it's past the time period where people can honestly call it a fad anymore.
 

Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
Supporter
I can't speak for NFTs or some forms of Crypto Currency. But I can say Bitcoin has had fairly stable valuations

Oh, really?
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Jumps from $10K to $60K, and the bouncing around between $40K and $60K is not "stable" to my way of thinking.

My ordinary stocks go up and down virtually identically to my BitCoin (of which I own very little by the way).

Sure. But, I think you have lost the narrative a bit. We were talking about things folks are supposed to have "faith" in. After the Great Recession - still living memory - you are suggesting people are supposed to have "faith" in the stock market in the same way they have faith in the dollars in their wallets? Comparing bitcoin to the stock market is not comparing to things John Q. Public can rely upon.
 


Mistwell

Crusty Old Meatwad (he/him)
Oh, really?
Jumps from $10K to $60K, and the bouncing around between $40K and $60K is not "stable" to my way of thinking.



Sure. But, I think you have lost the narrative a bit. We were talking about things folks are supposed to have "faith" in. After the Great Recession - still living memory - you are suggesting people are supposed to have "faith" in the stock market in the same way they have faith in the dollars in their wallets? Comparing bitcoin to the stock market is not comparing to things John Q. Public can rely upon.
This is weird. In my original quote I included an article from a major financial paper which demonstrated the link between the S&P 500 and Bitcoin.

You cut that quote, and then responded to the argument as if I hadn't included a big article with graphics just like this one...only it included a chart of the correlation coefficient between bitcoin and the Nasdaq Composite, the S&P 500, Gold, and WSJ Dollar Index, respectively (excluding weekend changes of bitcoin) and not just one in isolation.

Why did you do that? What would compel you to remove the very thing which refutes your contention in the quote? I mean, you had to actually go in and cut it out from your reply, and then paste a new chart which doesn't show the comparison. Was this a "I posted before you edited" thing?

And to answer your other question, yes people have a certain level of faith in the stock market. They genuinely believe if they buy stocks from the DOW and S&P and NASDAQ it's not a scam. Which is the thing I was responding to, to begin this conversation. Stocks are real. If you want to say Crypto currencies are as reliable as stocks, then we agree but I don't think you're making the same point as the one I was responding to.
 
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Snarf Zagyg

Notorious Liquefactionist
This is weird. In my original quote I included an article from a major financial paper which demonstrated the link between the S&P 500 and Bitcoin.

You cut that quote, and then responded to the argument as if I hadn't included a big article with graphics just like this one...only it included a chart of the correlation coefficient between bitcoin and the Nasdaq Composite, the S&P 500, Gold, and WSJ Dollar Index, respectively (excluding weekend changes of bitcoin) and not just one in isolation.

Why did you do that? What would compel you to remove the very thing which refutes your contention in the quote? I mean, you had to actually go in and cut it out from your reply, and then paste a new chart which doesn't show the comparison. Was this a "I posted before you edited" thing?

Maybe because the article you were citing was showing … a 100 day correlation.

Not to go all “econometrics” on you- but that’s garbage.
 

Mistwell

Crusty Old Meatwad (he/him)
Maybe because the article you were citing was showing … a 100 day correlation.

Not to go all “econometrics” on you- but that’s garbage.
I have not replied to your earlier comment because of moderation discussion offline.

Until that's resolved, how about we not respond to each other in this thread. Because I felt you got personal, and I think it will get further personal if it continues without input from mods on that aspect.
 

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